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Modidy
03-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Had to have an RC51.. finally got one. Picked it up from a member here. So far, it's going well, and will be on the track later this month, maybe early next depending on schedule's.

I traded this R6 trackbike:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/002-34.jpg

For this RC51:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/003-24.jpg

And after a little purchasing and trading, It is almost ready to put on the track. I still have to put the new tire's on, replace the leaking left side radiator (tire's and rad are in the garage), and buy the DZUS style fasteners to connect the upper fairings to the stock side brackets. But this is how she sits as of last night:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/001-35.jpg



Mo

StickS
03-12-2010, 12:32 AM
Looking good.

bgup619
03-12-2010, 05:54 PM
FYI a superhawk radiator fits just no fan... alot cheaper than an rc

Modidy
03-12-2010, 11:52 PM
FYI a superhawk radiator fits just no fan... alot cheaper than an rc

Thanks for that info, but I already picked up a rad for it a few weeks back. Found a great deal here from a member. :D

franz125
03-13-2010, 06:06 AM
FYI a superhawk radiator fits just no fan... alot cheaper than an rcAnd smaller too:D

bgup619
03-13-2010, 02:30 PM
And smaller too:D

Actually its not.. Its the same size.. I know because Im running one... I got it from a salvage yard and thought it was from an RC until I realized the fan didnt bolt up to it.. The mounting tabs to the Bike are in the same location and fit perfect. If the fan tabs lined up it would be prefect..

bmfgsxr
04-01-2010, 08:42 AM
good project. im also building my rc for the track.. i should post up my progress pics too.

SP1
05-02-2010, 08:00 AM
I noticed that you lowered the pipes. Did you simply change the mid pipe from an "S" style
high mount to the OE mid ?
My RC has a set of Yosh RS3 ovals-standard mount. If all I have to do is buy a set of mids like the ones you removed, it could be kinda good looking.
For when I do track days, I put on my banged-up but very light Hindle titanium high mounts. I like the high mount look more & more.
Please let me know if all you did was swap mid pipes.

Thanks

Modidy
05-02-2010, 09:49 AM
I noticed that you lowered the pipes. Did you simply change the mid pipe from an "S" style
high mount to the OE mid ?
My RC has a set of Yosh RS3 ovals-standard mount. If all I have to do is buy a set of mids like the ones you removed, it could be kinda good looking.
For when I do track days, I put on my banged-up but very light Hindle titanium high mounts. I like the high mount look more & more.
Please let me know if all you did was swap mid pipes.

Thanks

I traded the high mount mid pipes you see in the upper pic, for a set of low mount mid pipe's you see in the bottom pic. I personally don't like the high mount look. It also doesn't allow me to place my feet on the pegs comfotably when I'm doing trackdays... I posted on another board to see if anyone was interested in swapping highs for lows, and found a guy in Canada that wanted high's..... we talked, then swapped mids.

So yes, all you would need to do is aquire a set of mid pipe's for the RS3 system and swap them in.

Mo

SP1
05-02-2010, 04:02 PM
Good point about foot clearance...
Would be ok for the street I suppose. At least now I / others know that the part is available.

What is it with us Canadians liking high mounts eh ?

Regarding your rad size...I owned a VTR1000 up until just a few years ago, and I would swear on a stack of wave rotors that they are smaller - more rectangular than RC51 rads.
Either way, your track bike looks awesome man. Great build. I am envious !
Please give us some feedback after your next track day.

Modidy
05-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Good point about foot clearance...
Would be ok for the street I suppose. At least now I / others know that the part is available.

What is it with us Canadians liking high mounts eh ?

Regarding your rad size...I owned a VTR1000 up until just a few years ago, and I would swear on a stack of wave rotors that they are smaller - more rectangular than RC51 rads.
Either way, your track bike looks awesome man. Great build. I am envious !
Please give us some feedback after your next track day.

I replaced my leaky rad with another stock one... it was priced good, and no need to look for an alternative.

As for my recent trackday, I had it out last week Sunday. It is a fun bike, but definately have to ride it differently than an inline 4... My last trackbike (that I used) was an 04 636 and it was a great bike for the track. Prior to that one, it was an 02 GSXR750... another great bike for the track. The RC feels heavier (and it is), doesn't corner with the ease of the other two, but provided more fun for me. Getting the stock suspension decent for my heavy ass took some trial and error. That will be taken care of later when funds are more readily available. I am running BT003RS (120/70, 190/55) tire's, and they were sticking nicely. The brakes on this bike are incredible! I had so much feel, I could brake deep into the corners... to the apex. At time's I was braking all the way until it was time to get back on the throttle... I had more feel from the front end than any bike I have ever been on. I don't think the wave rotors have much to do with it, but the steel line's have too! The front end was stable, but I am going to pull the forks up in the triple's just a hair to help with tip in. Maybe a spacer on the rear shock also. The Scotts Damper should keep the front end stable for my skill level. My gearing is -1 +2 and I could run done 600 pretty easily, and keep up with them in the corners. Definately had a better drive out of the corners than the inline. That was just a cool feeling... although I was riding conservatively to keep her up, and only slide the rear once or twice.... that I noticed. I did run to hot into two different corners and had to do some weed wacking... once even looked like I was out hunting.
Overall, I am very pleased with this bike. To be honest, I'm not sure I want to put the street bodywork on it. After I stretch and drop my Busa this week, I may have more of a want for the RC on the street for those spirited ride's through some twisties. The Busa is strictly for cruising......

mighty max
05-03-2010, 09:39 AM
Dont u feel the engine braking is too strong ?....mine had trouble ith the braking parts...rear end giving the fishtail when drop from 4th into 2nd gear...

Modidy
05-03-2010, 10:21 AM
Dont u feel the engine braking is too strong ?....mine had trouble ith the braking parts...rear end giving the fishtail when drop from 4th into 2nd gear...

The engine braking is quite strong, but the simple remedy for that is clutch control. Instead of just dumping the clutch all the way out when down shifting, ease it out, and don't fully release it until you are down to the desired speed. Also, make sure you are blipping the throttle just before letting the clutch out, to closer match your revs to wheel speed better. The will almost completely eliminate the swaying back end... you can also use that back end movement to help you steer into the turn at a little higher speed... not an easy move.

mighty max
05-04-2010, 06:35 AM
tks...i used to blip on race bike back in 2004...but not at the RC...im still trying to get hang over it

Modidy
05-04-2010, 10:22 AM
tks...i used to blip on race bike back in 2004...but not at the RC...im still trying to get hang over it

Since I don't have a slipper clutch, blipping the throttle is real important when trying to get the right corner speed. The bike seems more settled running into corners when I do. But the biggest difference is feathering out the clutch, as oppossed to dumping it on each downshift! Because there is so much engine braking with this big twin, I actually use less braking to slow me down.... but with the great brakes, I can stay on them deeper into the corner with good feel and feedback from the front end.... this bike is just fun. Can't wait till my next day out.

Mo

Paisanoracer
05-04-2010, 02:39 PM
Even with a slipper clutch you can still get squirrelly in the rear end if you dump the clutch too fast. The blipping and revving up to match wheel speed is solid, practical advice whenever riding the Torque Monster. I thought getting the SC would eliminate the problem...WRONG!!!

furty2
05-05-2010, 06:46 AM
Hey Man i am looking for midpipes yosh did you know somebody who get it ?

Modidy
05-05-2010, 04:15 PM
Hey Man i am looking for midpipes yosh did you know somebody who get it ?

I just posted a thread asking if anyone wanted to trade their's for mine. One reply was recieved, and it worked we out. I paid for shipping to him, and he paid for shipping to me. I would say try that.

Mo

jgos929
05-11-2010, 05:10 PM
Glad you're enjoying the bike it looks like its turning out good for you.

Modidy
05-11-2010, 06:05 PM
Glad you're enjoying the bike it looks like its turning out good for you.

Took it out to Eagle's Canyon a few weeks ago, and had a great time on it.... I also just picked up a Penske rear shock, and Moriwaki link to assis the rear suspension a bit. I will be soon adding some springs, and maybe emulators to the front forks to get it set right also.
I definately have no second thoughts about picking this bike up from you. Also picked up all the fairings, and bought stock bolts to put it back on the street too. If it were a little more comfortable for everyday riding, I would probably sell the busa :rolleyes: .... just kiddin :D

Here she is at rest, waiting for some minore surgery:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/001-37.jpg

This is why she needs minor surgery (Penske, and Moriwaki link)

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/001-36.jpg

And soon to be installed for some street rides:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/002-35.jpg

mighty max
05-12-2010, 09:53 AM
Even with a slipper clutch you can still get squirrelly in the rear end if you dump the clutch too fast. The blipping and revving up to match wheel speed is solid, practical advice whenever riding the Torque Monster. I thought getting the SC would eliminate the problem...WRONG!!!

How about increase the rear size sprocket to 44...better or worse?

mordygan
05-14-2010, 10:45 AM
sweet bike, man! i, too, bought an RC51 to turn into a track weapon, though i've done some other things to it so that it will no longer be streetable again:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/4564670652_ef04721544.jpg

that pile is mostly wires from all the lighting that i cut out, plus some other things, kick stand, horn, etc.

the bike i bought had 2bros high mounts on it and i , too, couldn't put my feet on the pegs correctly. my resolution was to get Sato low mounts, but could not find hangers anywhere, so i just fabbed up my own:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1213/4606692038_d4f17a5ab0.jpg

i've swapped the rear suspension with an ohlins and the link with a Kyle USA link. swapped the fork springs to better match my fat ass (240lbs rider w/ gear), replaced with vortex rear sets, woodcraft clipons. my only complaint with the whole project is the crappy quality of HotBodies Racing's body work. ill fitting, not pre-driled (which wasn't that big of a deal), crappy finish quality, way too easily cracked finish.... the list goes on.

most current pic of the bike i have, doesn't have exhaust mounted or new clipons on:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4582109089_b603b0cfcf_b.jpg

i get my race license tomorrow and its first track day in track dress is on sunday, with its first race the following sunday. and oddly enough, i won't be the only RC rider in my local club. it'll be awesome! especially if we can tag team that damned 1098s in our race level.

as a side note, i didn't use the original Dzus fasteners on the upper fairing (lost one in a lowside last year), instead, i drilled out the Dzus hard mount point and am just using a machine bolt and nut on the bracket. it is working quite well, but if you plan to make it a street bike again, then that probably isn't the best solution for you.

Modidy
05-14-2010, 11:03 AM
sweet bike, man! i, too, bought an RC51 to turn into a track weapon, though i've done some other things to it so that it will no longer be streetable again:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/4564670652_ef04721544.jpg

that pile is mostly wires from all the lighting that i cut out, plus some other things, kick stand, horn, etc.

the bike i bought had 2bros high mounts on it and i , too, couldn't put my feet on the pegs correctly. my resolution was to get Sato low mounts, but could not find hangers anywhere, so i just fabbed up my own:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1213/4606692038_d4f17a5ab0.jpg

i've swapped the rear suspension with an ohlins and the link with a Kyle USA link. swapped the fork springs to better match my fat ass (240lbs rider w/ gear), replaced with vortex rear sets, woodcraft clipons. my only complaint with the whole project is the crappy quality of HotBodies Racing's body work. ill fitting, not pre-driled (which wasn't that big of a deal), crappy finish quality, way too easily cracked finish.... the list goes on.

most current pic of the bike i have, doesn't have exhaust mounted or new clipons on:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4582109089_b603b0cfcf_b.jpg

i get my race license tomorrow and its first track day in track dress is on sunday, with its first race the following sunday. and oddly enough, i won't be the only RC rider in my local club. it'll be awesome! especially if we can tag team that damned 1098s in our race level.

as a side note, i didn't use the original Dzus fasteners on the upper fairing (lost one in a lowside last year), instead, i drilled out the Dzus hard mount point and am just using a machine bolt and nut on the bracket. it is working quite well, but if you plan to make it a street bike again, then that probably isn't the best solution for you.

Looking good! and I have heard that the fit of the Hotbodies was crap too! I am not sure what make my skinz are... I bought them used. They are very flexable, and were already mounted on someone else's bike. I was going to pickup a set of the Hotbodies when they were on sale for like $450 shipped, but came across the set I have less than half that! Good luck this weekend, and let us know how it comes out. I can't wait to try out the Penske and Moriwaki at my next track day....

Paisanoracer
05-16-2010, 12:07 PM
QUESTION: Does anyone know who makes a GOOD aftermarket rear fender that's got enough clearance for tire warmers?

COMMENT: I've got a spare set of carbon fiber exhaust hangers that I'd be willing to part with (trade for a rear fender)?

Paisanoracer
05-16-2010, 12:09 PM
How about increase the rear size sprocket to 44...better or worse?

I'm running a 44 in the rear. Great at Barber and Jennings. Lousy at Little Talley...

Paisanoracer
05-16-2010, 12:11 PM
Looking good! and I have heard that the fit of the Hotbodies was crap too! I am not sure what make my skinz are... I bought them used. They are very flexable, and were already mounted on someone else's bike. I was going to pickup a set of the Hotbodies when they were on sale for like $450 shipped, but came across the set I have less than half that! Good luck this weekend, and let us know how it comes out. I can't wait to try out the Penske and Moriwaki at my next track day....

Have had good luck with SharkSkinz...

mordygan
05-20-2010, 11:34 PM
Good luck this weekend, and let us know how it comes out.

the bike was awesome! she handled and held the track surface better than i could push her. successfully got my novice license and did a pretty good track day the following day. we ran a new configuration at our local track (Sandia Motor Speedway, if you care to know), that was both more fun and MUCH more technical than our usual configuration. got the bike painted last friday night.... the best paint job Krylon can buy. ;) . here is a pic of her at the track on sunday:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4626071930_7b86a3846f_o.jpg

the bike with the proper spring weights on her was considerably more confidence inspiring than the first time i rode her back in december. considerably more.... but that is to be expected.

Modidy
05-20-2010, 11:55 PM
Looks good, and glad to hear you got your license. I just do trackdays, no racing for me.... too expensive, and for the younger guys. I can't wait to get back out again!

colin parsons
06-18-2010, 01:12 PM
enjoying my bike at the track but still no match for the 4s on the staights. any tips....... i am going to put my bike in race trim and get rid off some of the wheight. Ive done the powercomander and pipes but still need more...... i battle with braking because the nose dives to much. i have redone my forks but still same problem. I carry good corner speed on entry and exit but come to the straights they make me look stupid. help guys, im thinking of racing next year and i need imput from you guys that no the bike better than us south africans.

Modidy
06-18-2010, 01:52 PM
enjoying my bike at the track but still no match for the 4s on the staights. any tips....... i am going to put my bike in race trim and get rid off some of the wheight. Ive done the powercomander and pipes but still need more...... i battle with braking because the nose dives to much. i have redone my forks but still same problem. I carry good corner speed on entry and exit but come to the straights they make me look stupid. help guys, im thinking of racing next year and i need imput from you guys that no the bike better than us south africans.

Fist off, what gearing are you running on your bike? I have the -1 +2, and have no problem outrunning the newer 600's down the straight.... as a matter of fact, the longest straight around here (track) is just over 2000ft. Are you using full throttle? My bike is stock with PCIII, flapper, soft rev, and bolt ons....

As for the front end dive, yes, you will get that even with after market springs, you just shouldn't be bottoming out... try a bit more engine braking to help with slowing the bike down too.

colin parsons
06-19-2010, 01:09 AM
Fist off, what gearing are you running on your bike? I have the -1 +2, and have no problem outrunning the newer 600's down the straight.... as a matter of fact, the longest straight around here (track) is just over 2000ft. Are you using full throttle? My bike is stock with PCIII, flapper, soft rev, and bolt ons....

As for the front end dive, yes, you will get that even with after market springs, you just shouldn't be bottoming out... try a bit more engine braking to help with slowing the bike down too.

Im referring to the 1000s, i have -1 +3 and im full throttle all the time..... what is a flapper and bolt ons.

colin parsons
06-19-2010, 01:12 AM
im referring to the 1000, have a -1 +3 and full throttle most of the time. what is flappers and bolt on's.....

Modidy
06-19-2010, 08:12 AM
im referring to the 1000, have a -1 +3 and full throttle most of the time. what is flappers and bolt on's.....

The RC51 is no where close to the outright acceleration of the 1000cc inline fours. By the time you got enough out of your RC to keep up with a 01 or newer 1000cc bike, you would have been better off selling the RC, and taking all that cash and buying a new 1000cc bike, or used 1098.
Bolt on's are the Yoshimura exhaust can's on my bike, not a full exhaust system. The flapper mod is remove of the vacum operated flap in the intake tubing at the nose of the bike.
Mo

screamin chief
06-19-2010, 02:08 PM
Im referring to the 1000s, i have -1 +3 and im full throttle all the time..... what is a flapper and bolt ons.

you got to understand that the RC51 was developed to beat the 750s of the late 90s and early 00s. they will never perform with todays 1000s. The new 600s are almost dead on in hp. What you have is a special bike that not to many others have and should be enjoyed with that in mind.

mighty max
06-19-2010, 09:59 PM
enjoying my bike at the track but still no match for the 4s on the staights. any tips....... i am going to put my bike in race trim and get rid off some of the wheight. Ive done the powercomander and pipes but still need more...... i battle with braking because the nose dives to much. i have redone my forks but still same problem. I carry good corner speed on entry and exit but come to the straights they make me look stupid. help guys, im thinking of racing next year and i need imput from you guys that no the bike better than us south africans.

Well this happen to me.....
BUt u guys have the V twin race or Super twin....But us, is Superbike race..for those 1000cc Vtwin or inline....
:o

zam
06-20-2010, 03:08 AM
Took it out to Eagle's Canyon a few weeks ago, and had a great time on it.... I also just picked up a Penske rear shock, and Moriwaki link to assis the rear suspension a bit. I will be soon adding some springs, and maybe emulators to the front forks to get it set right also.
I definately have no second thoughts about picking this bike up from you. Also picked up all the fairings, and bought stock bolts to put it back on the street too. If it were a little more comfortable for everyday riding, I would probably sell the busa :rolleyes: .... just kiddin :D

Here she is at rest, waiting for some minore surgery:

[SNIP]

And soon to be installed for some street rides:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/modidy/002-35.jpg

I would recommend to cut out for the oil cooler in the inner front cowl, at least for the SP2 it is necessary I noticed. Even here in cold Sweden the temperature get way to high when I was on a track day. It took me a few minutes with higher pulse then normal before I realized it was the lack of air to the cooler that caused it. I know the location of the oil cooler is different on the SP1, but I am not sure how.

After I made the cut out it is running fine again.

Modidy
06-20-2010, 01:58 PM
I would recommend to cut out for the oil cooler in the inner front cowl, at least for the SP2 it is necessary I noticed. Even here in cold Sweden the temperature get way to high when I was on a track day. It took me a few minutes with higher pulse then normal before I realized it was the lack of air to the cooler that caused it. I know the location of the oil cooler is different on the SP1, but I am not sure how.

After I made the cut out it is running fine again.

I have race fairings on the bike when at the track, and that area is already clear in front of the oil cooler. No issue's there, but thanks for the tip.

zam
06-20-2010, 02:31 PM
I would cut it up even for street riding, specially since the RC51 runs pretty hot anyway.