Anybody know of a good set up pipes to put on the RC?. Looking into a set of Two Bothers. Want something with a little more power, like I need it and good sound. Sato looked good.....but not in the budget.:D

Everyones gonna say SATO and if you don't get sato your a loser. Ignore those people get whatever you want. I think Two Brothers are fine but heard there build quality isn't all that great and there carbon doesn't last to long. Me I have d&d and get ragged on all the time but they look good and they're build quality is good. They're alittle loud but I can deal with it. And contrary to what others believe I had mine tuned and with the right map I picked up some power and drivability. It all comes down to what you can afford plain and simple.....

Ditto on the D&D. I've got an aftermarket D&D can on my '02 F4I street ride. Good performance, Good fit and finish. VERY reasonable price. Won't be disappointed...

WOW !!! Thanks pisano your the 1st person to actually not give me shit for having d&d. Thanks

I pulled off the Jardine 2 into 1 and am replacing with an Akrapovic full system.
I was thinking of buying a Tsukigi fill titanium system, but Xtreme Discount Cycles had exhaust blowout special, so I got the Akrapovic full system with carbon cans cheaper than the Tsukigi.
And I must say the fit and finish on the Akrapovic is a work of art. No wonder they charge so much.
The CNC milled aluminum inserts for the exhaust ports match the D-shape of the SP2's and guide the gas into the head pipe. Nice attention to detail for gas flow.
And the welds on that real thin wall stainless tubing is beautiful.
The whole system (pipes, fasteners, springs, and both carbon cans) only weighs 14 lbs.

If anybody wants a Jardine 2 into 1 full system, let me know.
No muffler can, only the exhaust system.
It's stainless, but will need some polishing as it's discolored from heat and road use.

Power band-wise, the torque starts to kick in at about 4000-4500 and the HP bank kicks in at 6000.
On my SP2, it made about 116 HP at rear wheel and around 68-70 Ft/Lbs of torque.

Good choice on the cans. Have u ordered from xtreme before? I was gonna score my exhaust from them awhile back but they jerked me around on the delivery times At 1st it was a week and then they called and said it was on back order and it was gonna be a month. Found another place online and had it in 3 days. Let me know how it works out

Sorry about that. I've been ordering so much stuff for the bike I slipped a cog.

I went back and checked my invoices and found the Akrapovic system came from 58Cycle and not Xtreme Discount Cycle.

And 58Cycle was great to order from.
I ordered the system and received it 3 days later, to my surprise.

Not only did I get an Akrapovic full system with carbon cans (carbon was the only choice) at almost $400 cheaper than the next lowest cost I found, but they also threw in another $10 bucks off for having an order over $200 and shipping was free!!

So I got a warm-fuzzy from that transaction.

58Cycle is where I ordered mine from. They were great. Good choice

you may want to check out dyno numbers, they should be provided by every manf. but only a couple post them on their site. I cant remember for sure but I think micron and m4 do. Ive used both of their products and have been impressed. I have sato on my RC, but had micron on a sv650 and was real impressed with the fit / build quality and the ease of installation. Nothin worse than dropping big coin for a system only to have your bike run worse than the stock system. check out the dyno numbers.

Thanks for all the responses, I really appreciate it. I have been looking at the D&D Pipes for $ and the sound that they give!!..I have not checked out the specs on the pipes yet.

Anyone knows the specs on these?

I have d&d and for what I paid I couldn't be happier. Those paired with the pcIII made a huge difference. I made power with mine. Not sure of their specs though. You could try looking on their site but I didn't find anything. I think cause not alot of 51's run them. According to a certain 51 website that everybody thinks is the gospel. The d&d's are a great "bang for the buck". Their only problem was that they are alittle heavier then some of the other aluminum cans out there. If you do decide to go with d&d order them through 58cycle.com. They're great and you'll get them quick.

Do any of the aftermarket kits allow the rear foot pegs? alot of them look like they remove the pegs

Where can I find pictures of Sato, Jardine 2 into 1 and D&D exhaust.
You can use this forum here in pictures show?
How much a Akrapovic completely exhaust system in the UNITED STATES?
Thank you for all the answers?

I finally added a set of slip on Jaradines carbon fiber!. The sound is awesome and found a great deal at motosport.com.
Will add on some pics when I get a chance.

Do any of the aftermarket kits allow the rear foot pegs? alot of them look like they remove the pegs

Probably most of the low-mount systems and slip-ons mount to the existing passenger peg brackets.
It's the high-mount systems that don't, of course.

Since I never planned to carry passengers, I replaced mine with Sato titanium exhaust hangers. A lot lighter in weight as the stock are cast aluminum.

Where can I find pictures of Sato, Jardine 2 into 1 and D&D exhaust.
You can use this forum here in pictures show?
How much a Akrapovic completely exhaust system in the UNITED STATES?
Thank you for all the answers?

I bought my Akarapovic titanium full race system from 58Cycle during their year-end exhaust sale.
I paid $1438 including shipping and handling. Had it 3 days from ordering.

there are plenty of decently priced exhausts for the 51

If you want to order a set from Jardine just mention you saw a post on this forum and we will be glad to help you out!

http://jardineproducts.com/products/sfID1/28/sfID2/8/sfID3/36/productID/747

Thanks John
951-739-5900

http://jardineproducts.com/ecom/images/product/747.127.600x400.18-1012-323-02.jpg

Hey Jardine guy can you tell me what the diameter of the midpipe is on the 2:1?

If you're talking about the end of the collector where the exhaust can mounts, I measured approximately 57mm O.D.

Sub your the man Thanks

The outlet diameter of the mid pipe is 2 1/4" or 57.15 mm

Thanks, John
951-739-5902

http://http://jardineproducts.com/ecom/images/product/770.143.600x400.18-1615-123-02.jpg

57mm it is then

thanx John

I build a 2-1 for me exhaust.
Ich baue mir eine 2-1 Auspuffanlage.

Have an Akrapovic with D.65mm admission and D. 60 mm outlet.
Ich habe einen Akrapovic Dämpfer mit D. 65mm Einlaß und D. 60mm Auslaß.

Connection has pipe the D.56mm.
Das Verbindungsrohr hat D. 56mm.

I will show pictures if it is ready.
Ich zeige Bilder wenn es fertig ist.

Guess that means I need a 60mm diameter on the can right?

Yes, please let us view the exhaust when you complete it.
You build it in stainless steel?

Guess that means I need a 60mm diameter on the can right?

I had a Yoshimura RS-3 titanium can on the Jardine 2-1, and it fit the pipe end nice and snug. It was approximately 2-1/4" / 57mm I.D.

doesn't the od on the can need to be bigger then od on the midpipe?

doesn't the od on the can need to be bigger then od on the midpipe?

Uh no.
The I.D. diameter of the muffler inlet had to be greater than, or equal to, the O.D. of the exhaust pipe end.
So if the exhaust pipe was 57mm O.D., then the muffler I.D. can be 57mm+, but never -57mm.

Looks like I had my od's and id's outta whack. I'm used to buying exhaust and it all fitting you know. This is my 1st attempt at custom exhaust on the 51

Hey I know you were on the right track.
I was just jerking your chain :)
You checking diameters prior to mrgrn making that carbon can?

yes sir !!!

Had you considered ceramic coating the pipe rather than wrapping?
I've heard the coating is better than the wrap at holding the heat in and insulating the pipe from nearby components (the shock).

I have thought about it but never commited. Thinking about on this project though for sure.

all yosh and this jardine are the 57mm most others are 54mm or 60.5mm

you see the ceramic coating pic i posted over there with the semi black JG?

a whole complete header is like $150 max and lower temp and flow the gas better, great option IMHO

here is some mids i had done for a guy and my full exhausts will have either this or a silver coating done to them

Paint something else here.
My do-it-yourself 2-1 in the raw condition.

Hier mal etwas anderes.
Mein Eigenbau 2-1 im rohen Zustand.

Paint something else here.
My do-it-yourself 2-1 in the raw condition.

Hier mal etwas anderes.
Mein Eigenbau 2-1 im rohen Zustand.

Will be good to see when completed and mounted.
Will this be a low mount for the muffler?

I do not understand this.
"Will this be a low mount for the muffler?"

Do they mean this here?
Transferred at the side yes, it shall be.

Meinen sie das hier?
Ja, seitlich verlegt soll es werden.
here so (http://www.vtr1000.de/forum/showthread.php?t=44675)

He means is the muffler gonna be a low mount meaning the muffler will hang in the stock location or a high mount where it will be up by the tail section

My 3 exhaust systems
Akrapovic Carbon 2-2 for racetrack
Akrapovic titanium 2-1 do-it-yourself for racetrack
Laser Duo Tech 2-2 titanium for street


Meine 3 Auspuffanlagen
Akrapovic Carbon 2-2 für Rennstrecke
Akrapovic Titan 2-1 Eigenbau für Rennstrecke
Laser Duo Tech 2-2 Titan für Strasse