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Juandi824
02-11-2009, 03:31 AM
i just recently got a 2000 rc51 i know very little about the bike i wish someone could put it all together for me and give me a couple of specs and its goods and bads..... thanks.

sr2-e
02-11-2009, 08:37 AM
Hello and welcome for the RC51 site.

jgos929
02-11-2009, 10:02 AM
2000 is a great year thats what I have. Its a great bike so I don't know what else to tell you. Not to many bads that I can think of.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 12:37 PM
I just got it yesurday I traded an old car I had for it but now I'm taking it to the shop to get it tuned and oil change and a quick inspection do you thinkb28 k miles is a lot for this year and model

jgos929
02-11-2009, 01:29 PM
Thats alittle over 3K miles per year and no I don't think thats bad at all. Mine has 22K on it and she purs like a kitten.

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 01:31 PM
I have an '02 with 38K miles.
These are well built engines.
If well cared for, they last forever.
I have heard some riders with 60K to over 100K miles on them.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 01:33 PM
wow i thought 28k was bad on a bike but i guess not. do you guys do the maintenance on it your selfs or you guys take it to a shop..........

jgos929
02-11-2009, 01:39 PM
On a vtwin that 9yrs old its very good. On an inline 4 thats 9 years old its very good also. I don't think inline's hold up to the miles as well as vtwins do. I think that since bikes are so cheap you hear alot of "thats high miles for a bike" because you can get a newer one for such a low price.

I don't let anyone touch any of my vehicles + I get alot of satisfaction from knowing I did it myself

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 01:45 PM
i would love to start doing things on my own but i want to start getting to know my bike better little by little since is my first bike

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 01:55 PM
I do most of the work on my bike except for areas that require specialized equipment or tools that I don't have or can't afford.

Pretty much all engines these days are very well built.
If properly cared for, practically all of them will last a long, long time regardless if a twin or four cylinder.
Any engine abused or mistreated will prematurely wear out.

The high-mileage you speak is just a resale reference, just as for cars.
Beyond an arbitrary limit, the resale value falls.
That does not mean the machine is worn out. Unless it was abused and really IS worn out.
Unfortunately, the 600s are used as throw-away bikes due to their price.
Younger riders use 'em, abuse 'em, buy another.
The larger, more expensive bikes generally don't follow that pattern.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 02:38 PM
ok i see thanks for your help... another question my bike has a power commander what is this and what does it do to the bike and how much more hp it adds to the bike?

jgos929
02-11-2009, 02:53 PM
A powercommander allows you to adjust the fueling allowing you to make the bike run better. By itself it is great, but that along with some exhaust it is wonderful. Go to powercommander.com and you can read up all about it and you can also find the available maps they have for download

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 03:09 PM
is it easy to change maps on your own?

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 03:14 PM
the exhaust on my bike are the two brothers racinc titaniom c seies i dont know to much about it ...

jgos929
02-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Yes sir. Its as easy as uploading a file to your computer. If you got a laptop plug it into your power commander using a usb cable or if you have the pcIIIr use a serial cable. Then open the power commander software on your computer and click the map you want to upload and voila your done. Try to match up a map with the mods you have or you'll be off and the bike won't run very well.

jgos929
02-11-2009, 03:17 PM
the exhaust on my bike are the two brothers racinc titaniom c seies i dont know to much about it ...

If you go to the two brothers website you can download a map specifically for their exhaust. They did some r&d with the pcIII and their cans and are free to download off their site.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 03:27 PM
where would the power commander would be located on the bike?

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Under the rear cowl.
Open the access panel or rear seat pad with your key.
It should be in there. Just find the specific model.
Go to Power Commander's web site and obtain the user manual for instructions to change maps.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 03:32 PM
thanks and i also have another question how do i reset the computer.? step by step if you know?

jgos929
02-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Reset the power commander?

When you pull up the program on your computer there will be an option to reset it. Just pull up the instructions on the website and it will give you step by step

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 04:16 PM
no not the power comander the computer i heard that, that could be the problem when the bike doesent start

jgos929
02-11-2009, 04:33 PM
I haven't heard of resetting the computer but you could try unhooking the battery from the battery cables letting it sit for alittle while then hook everything back up and see what happens. What happened that would make your bike not want to start.

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 04:50 PM
Are you referring to the tilt sensor?
If the bike is laid down or tilted to one side far enough, the tilt sensor will kill the engine as a safety measure.
If the bike is righted and the ignition is cycled, it should reset the relays.

If your bike doesn't start, are there any FI blink codes indicating a problem?

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 05:15 PM
the bike ran out of gas the i put gas in it now it doesent start the f1 comes on for like 2 secs after ignition then it turns of when i press the starter it cranks but it doesent turn over... any idea? i might just take it to a shop!

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 06:40 PM
When you turn the key on, do you hear the fuel pump whine for a few seconds and then stop?

sr2-e
02-11-2009, 07:01 PM
if the battery is too weak, the starter turns.
But it does not reach the engine to it start.
.
wenn die Batterie zu schwach ist, dreht der Anlasser durch.
Aber es reicht nicht zum starten des Motors

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 08:37 PM
When I turn the key I do hear the fuel pump the it stops

sr2-e
02-11-2009, 08:49 PM
This bike has a choke (Cold start device).
Have you used this one?
You understand me?


Dieses Bike hat einen Choke.
Haben Sie den benutzt?

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 09:03 PM
You can try to see if the ECU has any fault codes.

With the ignition key off.
For SP1 (2000-2001) remove the rear passenger seat or access panel.
You will find a small 2-pole connector near the ECU which is the service connector.
Short the two terminals with a jumper wire.
Turn the ignition key ON.
If there is are no problems recorded, the MIL (aka the FI light) will light and stay lit.
If there are problems, the MIL will blink a sequence of numbers then pause and repeat.
Count the number of blinks.
Then a fault may then be referenced.

sr2-e
02-11-2009, 09:08 PM
How are the individual faults translated?
How much do flash which fault is?

Wie werden die einzelnen Fehler übersetzt?
Wieviel blinken ist welcher Fehler?

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 10:01 PM
There are two pages of blink codes in the service manual.
It would take some space to note them all here.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 10:09 PM
can somebody put up picures on where the ecu is located and what two things i have to jump??????

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 11:00 PM
Sorry but I only have an SP2.
Maybe someone with SP1 can post photo of service connector.

Juandi824
02-11-2009, 11:02 PM
are they different?

sr2-e
02-11-2009, 11:06 PM
thanks
I did not know this either

SubSailor
02-11-2009, 11:12 PM
Here is my SP2 showing the ECU connectors and service connector.
The green connector is the service connector.

On the SP2, it is located under the rider seat.
On the SP1, it is located under the passenger seat or access panel at the rear.

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp158/rc51/SP2ECUandServiceConnectors.jpg

Juandi824
02-12-2009, 01:55 AM
Yeah I've seen that part what do I do now disconect does two cannon plugs ?

Juandi824
02-12-2009, 01:58 AM
What does jumper mean when it comes to this?

SubSailor
02-12-2009, 02:29 PM
With the ignition key off.
Jumper across the two contacts on the service connector.
Turn ignition key on.
Watch the FI light on the gauge panel.
See if it blinks in a pattern. If so, count the number of blinks.
If more than one failure code, it will pause slightly between sets of codes.
Write down all the codes it displays.
Then we can cross reference.

jgos929
02-12-2009, 08:51 PM
jumper means get a piece of wire and strip it at both ends then stick each end in the green connector turn the key on and watch the fi light.

SubSailor
02-12-2009, 09:36 PM
jumper means get a piece of wire and strip it at both ends then stick each end in the green connector turn the key on and watch the fi light.

Late shift clocking in at tech support J? :)

jgos929
02-13-2009, 03:38 PM
Damn bro you've been on fire lately. Tell you what we'll do. Instead of welcoming people to the site and telling them "there's alot of knowledgable people here" we'll just tell them to wait because you are bound to chime in with whatever they need or don't need. Good idea???

Juandi824
02-13-2009, 09:07 PM
c'mon guys be nice to each other we are all here to help the uninformed by the way thanks a lot for all the help....

SubSailor
02-13-2009, 10:02 PM
Damn bro you've been on fire lately. Tell you what we'll do. Instead of welcoming people to the site and telling them "there's alot of knowledgable people here" we'll just tell them to wait because you are bound to chime in with whatever they need or don't need. Good idea???

Just trying to be helpful, and I get bored sometimes during those rare lulls at work.
I'd rather be working on the bike than the usual daily mind grind.
I guess I need to find some more stuff to do on the ole SP2.