has anyone here tried one of these $60 to $120 hid kits? is it for real? comments?

are there other kits that are legit and worth the expense and effort?

thanks

You get what you pay for....pretty simple. The HID kits that they sell give you fancy blue lights but they provide a terrible glare for oncoming traffic.

If you want something that performs as good as it looks you need to do a custom Projector install. I would recommend the FX45 projector with OEM ballast and bulb. This will give you the perfect cutoff because you are running the light through a projector and not using the standard reflector. Look in the for sale section...I just sold this set up. Looked awesome mounted up.

it turns out a local guy has a double h7 kit for sale. i'm gonna buy it.

i think i will wire them to the battery through a fuse and relay. i know little about electrical. does anyone know what relay and fuse to use?

Take a look at this setup:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=380114618064

I haven't had the chance to look at them and compare them for size, but they almost look small enough to put TWO PER SIDE in the housing with some serious fabrication.

Imagine two high and two low HIDs. Scary. The only drawback would be the 4 ballasts and the current draw.

here's what i bought

People are going to be cussing at you on approach....:eek:

i will try to aim the lamps properly. some claim that the beam is scattered but we shall see.
for the money i'm willing to take the chance on them.

did a "dry run" on the high beam side. so simple to wire it as intended through the stock harness. took out the old bulb. put the hid blulb in. plugged the spade connectors of the kit into the socket that the bulb used to plug into. ignition key to on. flipped the high beam on. after about 2 seconds of warm up the bulb fully lit. tried it a few times and all seemed well.

tuesday we're gonna put them in permanently. going to mount the ballasts in the tail.

Anyone have a link to this kit, and Finepooch, if it isnt too much trouble, maybe take a pic of them installed against a garage door or house maybe? thanks :cool:

yup, i will take pics.
the kit was originally bought off ebay. there are lots of them on there.

here is the link to the forum where i bought them.

http://www.nbriders.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4481

my neighbor installed the hid lights for me. he spliced some lengthened wire in and mounted the ballasts in the trunk. the install was fairly simple and didn't need much jimmy-riggin'. i had to adda a rubber grommet to the back of the bulb so the spring would hold it snug.

a negative is that the high beam doesn't come on every time i flip the switch. it comes on most of the time but not 100% of the time. i will be patient and see how much of an issue this will be.

in the garage the light does seem a lot different. hopefully i'll be able to test them at night soon.

it's dark. took the bike around the block. i like it. after i ride it for a couple months i will give an update.

if i turn the high beam off, car passes, the high beam won't come right back on. almost like the ballast needs to cool or something.

after a couple rides i have a bit more to say about the hids.

they are definitely brighter.
they definitely have a different light.
my ballasts are mounted in my trunk. i think they might not be getting enough cooling air in there.
on/off, and on/off doesn't seem to work well. i wonder if the ballsts need a bit of time to cool off before they can ignite the bulb.

it's dark. took the bike around the block. i like it. after i ride it for a couple months i will give an update.

if i turn the high beam off, car passes, the high beam won't come right back on. almost like the ballast needs to cool or something.

Are you talking a couple of extra seconds, or a much bigger wait? I'd have though dropping your high beam for oncoming traffic means the bulb would be off for 10-20 seconds, so if they take ages to come back on after that, one can assume the l'il units run way hot, no matter where they're mounted...:eek:

turn them on and off, like flashing to pass. i'm thinking it's not a prob but i'm not 100% sure yet. more time will tell the tale.

i took pics but the files are too big for this site. pm me if you'd like to see the pics comparing my hawk(h4 halogen) and my rc51(hid)

Digging up an old topic, do these seem too good to be true?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H7-Headlight-Kit-HID-Honda-CBR-1000RR-600RR-F4i-RC51_W0QQitemZ320416474124QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4f640c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_3512wt_1167

A lot of helpful insight on the way. HID's are a funny subject. Usually the causes of glare are simple problems. Most of them compose of cheap quality kits. Regardless of whether or not you have a "knock-off" Kit or not, ballasts need to cool down.

Reflector housings are also used by top named manufacturers because of light output to the road. Examples: Volvo XC-90, Volvo S40 R, Nissan 350Z, Acura RL (Older Models), Lincoln Mark IV, Oldsmobile Bravada and so forth. They compose of D2R bulbs which are reflector housing specific and throw more light on the ground but don't have the distance of D2S and projectors. Most of the D2R bulbs have small "Casper Blades" (block light to the bottom of the reflector) to eliminate glare.

The problem with HID's in a halogen reflector is the visible spectrum of light is spread out more evenly and it must be installed correctly. The arc of light inside of the glass tube must be in proportion to where the coil filament in the halogen was or the light will not reflect properly thus causing glare. If you find that sweet spot, no more glare. Unless you start going higher in the kelvin ranges, then you're spreading out the frequency of light and it'll just be one big ball of glare. I'm gonna have to take a picture of the light on my bike to show you because it has a complete straight line.

Now I will agree with projectors. They are the absolutely best. Now if you don't mine sticking your $600 headlight assembly in the oven and risk melting it, by all means go for it. I prefer the FXR projectors. They are the FX35 projectors but with a clear lens and sharper cut off.
http://store.theretrofitsource.com/images/FXR2.jpg

One company that has earned my trust and business is DDM Tuning. I bought there kit for my truck 2 years ago and are shining bright as day 1. My bike also has it. They specialize in parts for BMW, Porsche, VW, ect. And if anyone knows HID's, it's these guys. They cover their bulbs, ballasts, ignitors and harnesses for life. Yes, for life.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/images/products/hidbikesingle.jpg

I bought the 4300k for my truck (OEM colour) and 5000k for my bike (hint of blue without sacrificing lumens) I got the kit for my truck for $65 shipped. Seems low doesn't it? But it's the best quality and best deal I've found. The single for my bike was $43. I only ran a single because after I got HID I never touched my high beam unless I wanted to flash someone to turn or move over or whatever. Keeping the halogen in there is a good idea because it's instant light that does not have to warm up.

So to each his own. Just sharing my 2 cents.

Digging up an old topic, do these seem too good to be true?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H7-Headlight-Kit-HID-Honda-CBR-1000RR-600RR-F4i-RC51_W0QQitemZ320416474124QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item4a9a4f640c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_3512wt_1167

Please don't buy those. Do your bike a favor.

i have a kit that looks similar to that metal deal you posted from ebay. they work well and the light seems to be aimed well, like the light source is in the same place as the halogen filament. i found them local and bought them cash in hand. if i was ordering online i would def go with the slim style, digital. the slim ones would be easier to mount. the ddm name is out there and i've seen it lots. that kist is the slim style too.

I purchased a kit fromm ddm tuning the kit is made by apexcone. Great kit small ballasts easy install. i got a 55wat 5000k kit super bright i can turn nite time to daytime but beware oncoming traffic will highbeam thinking your highbeams are on there that BRIGHT.

Please don't buy those. Do your bike a favor.

Thought as much! Thankyou; that was the response I was expecting! Your earlier post was, in a word, EPIC!
I'll read and reread it so I don't stuff it up, and I'll go down your well researched route, thanks!!
:D

Do all of us oncoming traffic folk a favor and ditch the HID's. They're not mean't for our type of headlight only for projectors. All your doing is ricing out your bike and blinding everyone else on the road.

what are the other opitions are there for head lights if you don't switch to hid and don't want to spend a lot of cash like 600 bucks i was thinking more like spending around 100 to 150

Thought as much! Thankyou; that was the response I was expecting! Your earlier post was, in a word, EPIC!
I'll read and reread it so I don't stuff it up, and I'll go down your well researched route, thanks!!
:D

You're very welcome. Send me a PM with any questions. Or post up.

Do all of us oncoming traffic folk a favor and ditch the HID's. They're not mean't for our type of headlight only for projectors. All your doing is ricing out your bike and blinding everyone else on the road.
Wrong. HID's were not designed for projectors. Xenon lamps have been used in street lights, on the side of buildings and in construction for years. Most street lights use Argon now because of the cost of xenon gas. They all have reflector housings. They only introduced them in the BMW 7 series back in 1991 while I'm sure we can remember way back when seeing those streetlights flickering.

Anyways, There's many cars that came from factory with reflectors and HID's BUT those reflectors were made for the longer light spectrum. I can also assure you my bike is no where near rice, nor do I blind oncoming traffic in neither my truck nor my bike. Never have been flashed once either.

what are the other opitions are there for head lights if you don't switch to hid and don't want to spend a lot of cash like 600 bucks i was thinking more like spending around 100 to 150

Sylvania Silverstars.

I purchased a kit fromm ddm tuning the kit is made by apexcone. Great kit small ballasts easy install. i got a 55wat 5000k kit super bright i can turn nite time to daytime but beware oncoming traffic will highbeam thinking your highbeams are on there that BRIGHT.

Something wasn't lining up correctly. Also, bare in mind that you could've installed the bulb upside down.

You're very welcome. Send me a PM with any questions. Or post up.


Wrong. HID's were not designed for projectors. Xenon lamps have been used in street lights, on the side of buildings and in construction for years. Most street lights use Argon now because of the cost of xenon gas. They all have reflector housings. They only introduced them in the BMW 7 series back in 1991 while I'm sure we can remember way back when seeing those streetlights flickering.

Anyways, There's many cars that came from factory with reflectors and HID's BUT those reflectors were made for the longer light spectrum. I can also assure you my bike is no where near rice, nor do I blind oncoming traffic in neither my truck nor my bike. Never have been flashed once either.

I'm not gonna argue with you as I can see you transpose most of your argument straight from wikipedia to here.

Do all of us oncoming traffic folk a favor and ditch the HID's. They're not mean't for our type of headlight only for projectors. All your doing is ricing out your bike and blinding everyone else on the road.

And here was I wanting better visibility out of the spread of light that I've already got to be safer. The intention was never to point the new lights in oncoming motorists' eyes to blind them, but you've decided for all of us that this is the case. As for ricing out the bike, erm, no. Performance first, thankyou. However, if I wanted to go down that route, it would be my decision, and I'm lead to believe free thought is still the done thing.
Respect for the time you've been on here, but you do come across as a bit grumpy on these subjects. Maybe it's time to go for a pressure relieving ride? ;)

I'm not gonna argue with you as I can see you transpose most of your argument straight from wikipedia to here.

Isn't amazing what you can find out when you research yourself? The only thing I got from wiki is the first car to impose HID technology. Everything else is from personal experience of installing over 20 hid kits and one projector retrofit.

So don't assume I get everything from wikipedia.

And here was I wanting better visibility out of the spread of light that I've already got to be safer. The intention was never to point the new lights in oncoming motorists' eyes to blind them, but you've decided for all of us that this is the case. As for ricing out the bike, erm, no. Performance first, thankyou. However, if I wanted to go down that route, it would be my decision, and I'm lead to believe free thought is still the done thing.
Respect for the time you've been on here, but you do come across as a bit grumpy on these subjects. Maybe it's time to go for a pressure relieving ride? ;)

Thank you. It's obvious HID is the safer way to go. If other motorist flash you, at least they see you right? Higher visibility and performance is why 100's of cars come with HID. Reflector or projector.

Xenon lamps have been used in street lights, on the side of buildings and in construction for years. Most street lights use Argon now because of the cost of xenon gas. They all have reflector housings.

This part is word for word from wiki but I'll ignore it.

And the reason they have reflector housings by the way is because a light on the side of a building is not a safety hazard like oncoming traffic.

Damn it I'm arguing with you and I said I wouldn't do that. Your right all mighty one please dont smite me!!!

This part is word for word from wiki but I'll ignore it.

And the reason they have reflector housings by the way is because a light on the side of a building is not a safety hazard like oncoming traffic.

Damn it I'm arguing with you and I said I wouldn't do that. Your right all mighty one please dont smite me!!!
You're going to have to show me because I seriously wrote that off the top of my head. No lie. The only thing I grabbed from wiki is the BMW using HID in the 90's.

And the 12+ cars that use reflectors from factory with HID are meaningless?

Damn it I'm arguing with you and I said I wouldn't do that. Your right all mighty one please dont smite me!!!

Just a little humor.

http://stuffgodhates.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/smite.jpg

And here was I wanting better visibility out of the spread of light that I've already got to be safer. The intention was never to point the new lights in oncoming motorists' eyes to blind them, but you've decided for all of us that this is the case. As for ricing out the bike, erm, no. Performance first, thankyou. However, if I wanted to go down that route, it would be my decision, and I'm lead to believe free thought is still the done thing.
Respect for the time you've been on here, but you do come across as a bit grumpy on these subjects. Maybe it's time to go for a pressure relieving ride? ;)

And to think I almost missed your post. To get better visibility out of what you got I agree silverstars are good I have them on my bike. Its never anyone with HID's intentions to blind oncoming traffic but because of the reflectors in our lights thats just the way it is. I don't recall where I accused you of this being your intentions Burnian??? Performance first??? Hid's will in NO POSSIBLE WAY improve the performance of your 51. Please do what you want to your bike you paid for it. But don't get upset when you draw more attention to yourself from the police and get a ticket or get flashed and hey maybe you get lucky and someone flips you the bird to. :) I don't need you to show me any respect to you i'm just a person typing on a keyboard. I just try to offer advice, knowledge and sometimes as is the case here my honest opinion. Take it with what you will.

jgos is a cranky fella! hahahahaha it's ok though, no worries!
i may have said this before. not once have i been flashed because of my low beam hid. i used to get flashed with my 05 gix1k's low beam though.
as for performance, two ways i can think of immediately. being seen and being able to see(more). no extra HP though :( hahahahahaha
as far as i know(that's not much) the hids source of light is supposed to be placed right in the same spot as a halogen. would that not produce the same beam pattern(angles off reflector) as the stock halogen?

jgos is a cranky fella! hahahahaha it's ok though, no worries!
i may have said this before. not once have i been flashed because of my low beam hid. i used to get flashed with my 05 gix1k's low beam though.
as for performance, two ways i can think of immediately. being seen and being able to see(more). no extra HP though :( hahahahahaha
as far as i know(that's not much) the hids source of light is supposed to be placed right in the same spot as a halogen. would that not produce the same beam pattern(angles off reflector) as the stock halogen?

People being able to see you has nothing to do with performance and being able to see more at night doesn't make the bike perform better it makes you perform better. It in no way changes the bikes "performance". If you guys feel safer with them and are able to see better with them then I am all for it. If you guys are happy then I'm happy.

And to think I almost missed your post. To get better visibility out of what you got I agree silverstars are good I have them on my bike. Its never anyone with HID's intentions to blind oncoming traffic but because of the reflectors in our lights thats just the way it is. I don't recall where I accused you of this being your intentions Burnian??? Performance first??? Hid's will in NO POSSIBLE WAY improve the performance of your 51. Please do what you want to your bike you paid for it. But don't get upset when you draw more attention to yourself from the police and get a ticket or get flashed and hey maybe you get lucky and someone flips you the bird to. :) I don't need you to show me any respect to you i'm just a person typing on a keyboard. I just try to offer advice, knowledge and sometimes as is the case here my honest opinion. Take it with what you will.

HIDs will be an improvement over the standard lighting, ergo a performance improvement. Performance isn't only about engines or suspension, do you agree?
Playing Devil's advocate, you have Silver Stars. If they are no performance improvement, why did you fit them? Ricing it up a bit, eh? LOL!

HIDs will be an improvement over the standard lighting, ergo a performance improvement. Performance isn't only about engines or suspension, do you agree?
Playing Devil's advocate, you have Silver Stars. If they are no performance improvement, why did you fit them? Ricing it up a bit, eh? LOL!

As I said before lighting up the road ahead will not change the performance of the bike but instead change your ability to perform as the rider pushing the bike harder. Nothing whatsoever has changed about the bike. It would have performed the exact same way if you had regular bulbs in it.

I disagree... Performance on these machines is based primarily on the engine, suspension, weight and driveline. Put a high compression piston in the motor it makes more power etc. Revalve the front shocks or get a Penske rear and the handling of the bike changes etc. Get a lighter airbox or battery or clipons and the weight changes etc. We all know what happens when the gearing is changed. See Burnian all these things absolutely change the PERFORMANCE of the bike not the HID's you just got or the brighter LED's you put in your undertail. Also going with the same exact bulb configuration but in a whiter light is in no way me playing Devil's advocate or being a hypocrit or even close to rice. Again I did it so I could see better and therefore perform better on the off chance I was riding at night. Safety and being a better rider is more important then riding the bandwagon with the rest of the sheeple.

yes, performance in the safety category is what we're talking about. better vision enabling me to push it harder isn't what my hids are about. i'm too old to push it!

i am also old enough to appreciate that, even in 12 noon sun, the driver pulling out in front of me doesn't because he noticed me. i also love how the hids light up road signs as if they are backlit.

As I said before lighting up the road ahead will not change the performance of the bike but instead change your ability to perform as the rider pushing the bike harder. Nothing whatsoever has changed about the bike. It would have performed the exact same way if you had regular bulbs in it.

I disagree... Performance on these machines is based primarily on the engine, suspension, weight and driveline. Put a high compression piston in the motor it makes more power etc. Revalve the front shocks or get a Penske rear and the handling of the bike changes etc. Get a lighter airbox or battery or clipons and the weight changes etc. We all know what happens when the gearing is changed. See Burnian all these things absolutely change the PERFORMANCE of the bike not the HID's you just got or the brighter LED's you put in your undertail. Also going with the same exact bulb configuration but in a whiter light is in no way me playing Devil's advocate or being a hypocrit or even close to rice. Again I did it so I could see better and therefore perform better on the off chance I was riding at night. Safety and being a better rider is more important then riding the bandwagon with the rest of the sheeple.
So, you clearly own the exclusive rights and distribution on the word 'performance' and where it can be applied. So what do you suggest, then, if I want better perfomance from my lighting system? And you never answered why you fitted the Silver Stars, if not for better 'performance', as you've indicated that they perform no different to standard lights, then why?
P.S. Already done or doing those 'performance' things you've mentioned, so where should I stop, before crossing the line you've set that means it won't be performance? Rearsets offer no HP gain, yet, I'm more comfortable,and can ride faster around a track. They're better constructed than the factory pegs, so I consider them a better performing part, but this isn't so, according to your definition. So too a better rear shock, for instance, but I haven't got the Penske rear shock you mentioned, so I guess that's not so good...

While I think of it, you should get a patent on the word 'sheeple'. It's gold! Until you do, however, I'm goin to use it as often as possible, where applicable! I've ne'er heard it before; chapeau to you on that one!

i really did like sheeple!

all of your points are taken. why argue about the definition of a term? flaming is not good and we really don't want rc51forums.com to sink to the gixxer.com flaming levels. i don't remember seeing any flaming on superhawkforum.com and it is nice. they all get along and check their egos at the keyboard.

"can't we all just get along???"

let's get back to the hid topic. can anyone chime in here with some more info? we won't flame you!

So, you clearly own the exclusive rights and distribution on the word 'performance' and where it can be applied. So what do you suggest, then, if I want better perfomance from my lighting system? And you never answered why you fitted the Silver Stars, if not for better 'performance', as you've indicated that they perform no different to standard lights, then why?
P.S. Already done or doing those 'performance' things you've mentioned, so where should I stop, before crossing the line you've set that means it won't be performance? Rearsets offer no HP gain, yet, I'm more comfortable,and can ride faster around a track. They're better constructed than the factory pegs, so I consider them a better performing part, but this isn't so, according to your definition. So too a better rear shock, for instance, but I haven't got the Penske rear shock you mentioned, so I guess that's not so good...

Bro your quoting me but your not reading what I'm saying. Look at the 2nd to last sentence in my quote and I state why I got the silverstars. I'll post it for you again. "Again I did it so I could see better and therefore perform better on the off chance I was riding at night."

Rights and distribution of the word??? What does that even mean??? I'm simply stating that your definition of it is wrong. Again if you'll read where you quoted me I never say that performance is based on hp gains. If it were then suspension, weight and driveline would have nothing to do with it. Rear sets don't perform, they do nothing. Incase you haven't researched "perform" or "performance" in the way we're using it, it is an action word. Rearsets perform no action. Your rear sets are probably lighter than the stock ones therefore changing your bikes performance by lightening its weight. If they do weigh the same and you are in fact more comfortable and can ride better then you are performing better not your bike. A great rider on a shitty bike can spank a shitty rider on a great bike all day long remember that and you'll go far on two wheels I promise. Again if you would have read what I said and what you quoted me saying you would notice that I put etc after all my examples. For instance I mention Penske rear shock etc. Meaning I'm not listing all the different rear shocks there are out there for the 51. I'm merely using penske as one example.

Your intelligence level for some reason is not allowing you to comprehend what I'm saying and your just arguing to argue which is pointless. I feel good knowing I have gotten my point across and your rebuttals are just lame attempts at instigating something more.

Burnian,

Brighter light, when properly aimed, presents no safety issues.

As for JGOS, just put him on your ignore list. It was one of the first things I did, and it is bliss.

There is always that one guy on every forum who is jobless and living in his parent's basement. He leaves the porn web sites just long enough to try to stir people up and boost his self-esteem. Pity him, for he will never know the touch of a woman... :D

Eric

Burnian,

Brighter light, when properly aimed, presents no safety issues.

As for JGOS, just put him on your ignore list. It was one of the first things I did, and it is bliss.

There is always that one guy on every forum who is jobless and living in his parent's basement. He leaves the porn web sites just long enough to try to stir people up and boost his self-esteem. Pity him, for he will never know the touch of a woman... :D

Eric

You are correct when you say that "Brighter light, when properly aimed, presents no safety issues." However, the design of the reflectors in our bikes was always intended for halogen bulbs which have a much lower light output and a lower color temperature to boot. The use of HID bulbs in these reflectors housings throws out or scatters far more light particles than when halogens are used. This may be interpreted by other motorists as annoying glare or even that your Hi Beams being directed in their field of vision. Is it a safety issue? Maybe or maybe not.

Projectors focus the light particles and provide an extremely sharp cutoff, illuminating the roadway, the shoulder and signage without causing excessive glare to oncoming drivers. I am currently working on a retrofit using FXR projectors from The Retrofit Source in both the Left and Right headlight housings on my RC51. I will post pics of the progress later tonight when I get home. The issue I am working onj now is trying to consolidate all the ballasts and wiring in the tail.

Burnian,

Brighter light, when properly aimed, presents no safety issues.

As for JGOS, just put him on your ignore list. It was one of the first things I did, and it is bliss.

There is always that one guy on every forum who is jobless and living in his parent's basement. He leaves the porn web sites just long enough to try to stir people up and boost his self-esteem. Pity him, for he will never know the touch of a woman... :D

Eric

Ahh my old buddy Gipper, who made it about 2 rounds with me before you through in the towel I was starting to get worried about you. First off I happen to work for a very prominent real estate attorney in Dallas, TX. Second we don't have basements in TX but I do believe they're very common up north where you live. Third with the Windows operating system I can have the porn and 51forums up at the same time no need to close one and open the other. And last but not least I happen to be married to a very beautiful woman who touches me on average about 4 times a week. I pitty you because you talk and type like a child with your childish porn comments and what not. Seein that you popped up once to give me a run then disapeared and just now popped up again makes me think that your the one in the basement with the hairy palms bud.

You are correct when you say that "Brighter light, when properly aimed, presents no safety issues." However, the design of the reflectors in our bikes was always intended for halogen bulbs which have a much lower light output and a lower color temperature to boot. The use of HID bulbs in these reflectors housings throws out or scatters far more light particles than when halogens are used. This may be interpreted by other motorists as annoying glare or even that your Hi Beams being directed in their field of vision. Is it a safety issue? Maybe or maybe not.

Projectors focus the light particles and provide an extremely sharp cutoff, illuminating the roadway, the shoulder and signage without causing excessive glare to oncoming drivers. I am currently working on a retrofit using FXR projectors from The Retrofit Source in both the Left and Right headlight housings on my RC51. I will post pics of the progress later tonight when I get home. The issue I am working onj now is trying to consolidate all the ballasts and wiring in the tail.

Thank you sir that was the point I was trying to make. By the way the FXR projectors are sick. I saw them done on another forum and they turned out great. Good Luck with the install and keep us posted on the progress.

Jesus H. Christ, this has turned into something ugly. All I want I a better PERFORMING light to match my PERFORMANCE motorcycle. I truly believe there are sad individuals that spend more time correcting others and worrying about grammatical issues and keyboard PERFORMANCE than anything else. Please, get laid more often, ride even more frequently than that, let people live a learn just a little, and if all this fails, go somewhere a long way from civilisation and an Internet connection and BE QUIET.
Now, back on topic.
Pics of lighting performance upgrade. More, please!

jgos is a good fisherman.

jgos is a good fisherman.

Agreed. However, I ride bikes, race cars, work, and basically do all the things most of us on here do to call a life, give or take a few things. I hate fishing. So, coming on here and getting baited annoys me. The whole 'I'm far superior, and clearly on another level' thing sh1ts me to tears. So, for the first time in ages, I've sort out the appropriate technological steps to solve this. Ignore button employed, pest dealt with.
Shall we all move on now?

hahaha, burnian, good for you! you're a good lad and yes, let's all move on.

This is my Bi Xenon HID retrofit setup. I used FXR projectors from Retrofit Source (Thanks Matt!), 5000k bulbs, and their supplied harness kit. It takes some work to do it the way I did. I used all Deutsch connections wherever possible, and heat shrink bullet connectors where size was an issue (in the upper cowl area). What you see here is incomplete. It works flawlessly, but I was not happy with the bulky ballasts and ignitors being located up front, so I'm going to lengthen the wires from the ballasts to the ignitors and place the ballasts and the majority of the wiring in the rear cowl.

I'm very picky about my stuff, and I won't have somthing half-assed on my bike. I just won't do it until I'm 100% happy with it. Until then I am using PIAA Extreme White Plus H7 bulbs in both lamps. I'm very happy with their light output and color temp (4000k) for $49 per bulb.

View of assembled projectors
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC04174.jpg

Another shot of assembled units with ballasts and ignitors
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC04175.jpg

Rear view showing ignitor leads, flapper leads (to be shortened)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC04176.jpg

Front view of PIAA bulbs in bike now
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC04178.jpg

Jesus H. Christ, this has turned into something ugly. All I want I a better PERFORMING light to match my PERFORMANCE motorcycle. I truly believe there are sad individuals that spend more time correcting others and worrying about grammatical issues and keyboard PERFORMANCE than anything else. Please, get laid more often, ride even more frequently than that, let people live a learn just a little, and if all this fails, go somewhere a long way from civilisation and an Internet connection and BE QUIET.
Now, back on topic.
Pics of lighting performance upgrade. More, please!

I never tried to correct you and I never made any comments about your grammar. Your like everyone else who has an argument thats not valid and loses the debate. You start pulling outlandish things out of your ass and start putting words in peoples mouths. As I said before I get laid plenty and ride every weekend. I have many toys to keep me busy and vent my frustrations with. You will never get rid of me my friend.

Agreed. However, I ride bikes, race cars, work, and basically do all the things most of us on here do to call a life, give or take a few things. I hate fishing. So, coming on here and getting baited annoys me. The whole 'I'm far superior, and clearly on another level' thing sh1ts me to tears. So, for the first time in ages, I've sort out the appropriate technological steps to solve this. Ignore button employed, pest dealt with.
Shall we all move on now?

As I said many times before your not reading what others are typing. You have been baiting me and have forced me to go into defensive mode. Again with the putting words in my mouth. Show me where I claim to be superior to you and where I state I'm on a higher level than you. Cant do it can you??? Your the one thats fishing fishing for anything you can to make you fill like the bigger person. Oh and I highly doubt you do any of the above. Your probably a squid that can't ride, your car racing is probably reduced to illegal street racing. I have moved on, if you would read anyone elses posts before you open that mouth of yours you would notice that my last post was praising defender with his project and I asked him to keep ALL of us(including you burnian) up to date on the progress. I call that moving on don't you?

man those projectors look like a lot of work. tinkering is fun though.

man those projectors look like a lot of work. tinkering is fun though.

It wasn't that bad. I like to fabricate stuff. I did alot of the work on my Cobra, and we do alot of custom stuff at work all the time. never any HIDs though. That was my first attempt. Think of it this way. I made all the mistakes so you guys won't have to! If anyone's interested, I can post a detailed write up of the process to walk you through without much fuss.

Which kit did you use 1,2 or 3 ???

I used the stage 3 because I knew I'd need the harness and some kind of shroud. The first set I tried, the Gatling style, was too long and would not clear the lens. I went with the GTI-R s and the fit perfectly. I used some black RTV silicone to hold them onto the outside of the projector housings. The flat black panel behind it all is a custom cut 22 gauge aluminum panel to conceal everything.

Look. This discussion got out of hand. jgos929, you have a lot of valid points but you must see that you're feeding the fire as well. Sometimes it's better to just ignore someone. The Burnian, bashing someones personal life is pretty low especially since you know nothing of him. Now let's move on like adults. Consider this a warning.

It wasn't that bad. I like to fabricate stuff. I did alot of the work on my Cobra, and we do alot of custom stuff at work all the time. never any HIDs though. That was my first attempt. Think of it this way. I made all the mistakes so you guys won't have to! If anyone's interested, I can post a detailed write up of the process to walk you through without much fuss.

If you'd be able to, that would be much appreciated! Mmmmm...Cobra! Care to give us a quick run down on that bad boy? And your RC looks the goods; pics, pm'd or posted up?

Look. This discussion got out of hand. jgos929, you have a lot of valid points but you must see that you're feeding the fire as well. Sometimes it's better to just ignore someone. The Burnian, bashing someones personal life is pretty low especially since you know nothing of him. Now let's move on like adults. Consider this a warning.

I was generalising, and no names were mentioned (if you read my post closely, inferred or not, you'll see this). If someone takes it personally, well...
I did, however, opine that someone, no name mentioned, is a pest to me. This is still my opinion, and if I'm not allowed to have an opinion, ban me/can me.

Look. This discussion got out of hand. jgos929, you have a lot of valid points but you must see that you're feeding the fire as well. Sometimes it's better to just ignore someone. The Burnian, bashing someones personal life is pretty low especially since you know nothing of him. Now let's move on like adults. Consider this a warning.

Fair enough

I was generalising, and no names were mentioned (if you read my post closely, inferred or not, you'll see this). If someone takes it personally, well...
I did, however, opine that someone, no name mentioned, is a pest to me. This is still my opinion, and if I'm not allowed to have an opinion, ban me/can me.

Everybody on here along with their mothers know's you were talking about me. Stop trying to be a martyr with the "ban me" comments and move on already.

Defender check your pm's

Fair enough



Everybody on here along with their mothers know's you were talking about me.


Turns out fishing isn't such a bad sport, in short bursts at least. Good to see you've looked in the mirror.

Defender, in your photo with your bike's front end, I've spied an Ohlins steering dampner. I know this is off topic, but does it fit up much the same as the Scott ones most seem to favour, in your knowledge?

Back on topic, has anyone else gone to the lengths such as Defender to retrofit lights that have required the 'cutting and shutting' of the housings? Potential headaches to be avoided, or worth it for the performance upgrade to your lighting?

Turns out fishing isn't such a bad sport, in short bursts at least. Good to see you've looked in the mirror.

Good to see you admitted your an instigator I mean fisherman.

Good to see you admitted your an instigator I mean fisherman.
Welcome to the party, pal.

Turns out fishing isn't such a bad sport, in short bursts at least. Good to see you've looked in the mirror.

Defender, in your photo with your bike's front end, I've spied an Ohlins steering dampner. I know this is off topic, but does it fit up much the same as the Scott ones most seem to favour, in your knowledge?

Back on topic, has anyone else gone to the lengths such as Defender to retrofit lights that have required the 'cutting and shutting' of the housings? Potential headaches to be avoided, or worth it for the performance upgrade to your lighting?

It is a Scotts/Ohlins unit. Both names are on the damper. I believe they all are in that style. It fits on a mounting ring that attaches to the stem nut. If you have more than one bike, you can just buy a spare mount kit and swap the damper in a minute.

I can post a detailed write up of my install for you later tonight after I get home. The biggest problem I ran into was concealing the wires and ballasts to my satisfaction, but I do custom fabrication nearly everyday. I went so far as to wire the lights from the relay forward, with the idea of concealing the ballasts in the front of the bike. I just wasn't happy with my result, so I yanked all the wiring back out and started planning the project with almost everything except the ignitors in the tail. Fewer wires running forwards, only two little boxes to hide, etc. The other issues are minor in my opinion, and I just worked them out as I went along. Fabbing mounting tabs for the projector, cutting a concealment panel, attaching the shroud securely, and so on just took some time to figure out. It was my first attempt at an HID retrofit on any vehicle. I'm very happy with the appearance and absolutely stoked about the performance and cutoff pattern, now I just want to wire it neatly. There is plenty of room in the tail for the relay, ballasts and wires.

Welcome to the party, pal.

yippie-ky-yay m***er f**ker

What are battling with movie quotes now???

If you'd be able to, that would be much appreciated! Mmmmm...Cobra! Care to give us a quick run down on that bad boy? And your RC looks the goods; pics, pm'd or posted up?

1995 SVT Cobra Coupe just under 85,000 miles when I sold her. 347 cubic inch SBF, 10.2:1 compression, made 357rwhp/425 rwtq on pump gas all motor, with the wet plate kit and a 200 shot she put down 515 rwhp/607rwtq. She made a best run of 10.57 at 124.82mph. Not bad for a 3200 lb car with a 195lb me in it.

Car
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC01145.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC01138.jpg

Bike
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/9e4a1091.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/75c233e2.jpg

1995 SVT Cobra Coupe just under 85,000 miles when I sold her. 347 cubic inch SBF, 10.2:1 compression, made 357rwhp/425 rwtq on pump gas all motor, with the wet plate kit and a 200 shot she put down 515 rwhp/607rwtq. She made a best run of 10.57 at 124.82mph. Not bad for a 3200 lb car with a 195lb me in it.

Car
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC01145.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/DSC01138.jpg

Bike
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/9e4a1091.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i102/hissedoff/75c233e2.jpg

Sounds like a nice street car you had there. I to have a Mustang. 93 coupe with a DSS Racing 347ci, Vortech X-Trim blower with F.A.S.T Fuel Injection, C4 3 speed auto all tubular frame and tons of other go fast parts. Last summer she did 799rwhp/905rwtq and my best eta to date is a 6.04 at 121.xxmph 1/8 mile. Quarter mile tracks are to far away. If you do the math with my gearing, tire size, stall & weight thats about a 9.50eta in the quarter.

Tough car, GORGEOUS bike! Props.
I never realised the badging thing between Scott/Ohlins; thanks for the heads up.
If you've already written up your lighting escapades, I'm more than happy to read up, but don't put finger to keyboard to start from new just for me. Seeing how thorough you are, documentation and tracking of your work is an obvious attribute of yours!
Can I ask about heat issues(or lack of?) with the ballasts in the tail unit? I've guessed that if they're hidden away at the front properly, the airflow/cooling is approx. the same?

Tough car, GORGEOUS bike! Props.
I never realised the badging thing between Scott/Ohlins; thanks for the heads up.
If you've already written up your lighting escapades, I'm more than happy to read up, but don't put finger to keyboard to start from new just for me. Seeing how thorough you are, documentation and tracking of your work is an obvious attribute of yours!
Can I ask about heat issues(or lack of?) with the ballasts in the tail unit? I've guessed that if they're hidden away at the front properly, the airflow/cooling is approx. the same?

Thanks for the compliments. I enjoyed the car, but the bike is a whole new love affair.

Honestly, I had already done most of the write up. I just need to finish the portion with the wiring in the rear. I was going to post it when I showed off the finshed product installed in the bike. As far as heat issues go, the ballasts get warm, but I am going to double check with the manufacturer and make sure. The rep said before he thought it was OK, but I am going to get a definite answer. I hadn't gotten that far, though, since I had set the project aside for awhile to enjoy riding the bike. I had thought about picking it back up this winter, but everyone's interest has kind of motivated me again.

Others have mounted the ballasts on the inside of the lower inner cowl, and this of course would get sufficient airflow, but I didn't want to put mine there for aesthetic reasons. There is no room in the upper cowl for both the ballasts and the ignitors without bulging the inner cowl or the upper to the point of stressing the fasteners and risking cracks in the tupperware.

I'll post up what I learn from the manufacturer as soon as he emails me back.

Sounds like a nice street car you had there. I to have a Mustang. 93 coupe with a DSS Racing 347ci, Vortech X-Trim blower with F.A.S.T Fuel Injection, C4 3 speed auto all tubular frame and tons of other go fast parts. Last summer she did 799rwhp/905rwtq and my best eta to date is a 6.04 at 121.xxmph 1/8 mile. Quarter mile tracks are to far away. If you do the math with my gearing, tire size, stall & weight thats about a 9.50eta in the quarter.

She sounds wicked. I love the Fox body coupes. I almost traded for one, but I knew I'd ride more. I ran the FAST XFI too. Those guys are absolutely awesome. Best service EVER. Any of my future projects will use their products if possible.

defender - that is a nice bike

She sounds wicked. I love the Fox body coupes. I almost traded for one, but I knew I'd ride more. I ran the FAST XFI too. Those guys are absolutely awesome. Best service EVER. Any of my future projects will use their products if possible.

I'm gonna pull all my toys out this weekend and clean out the garage so I'll try to get a pic or two up. Yeah the fast system is sweet. I'm still learning how to use it so I can tweak for air temps and what not. Still not confident enough to make big changes cause I got so much $$$ in the car I can't afford to mess something up so I leave that to my tuner.

I have been running HIDs for over a year now. No problems :)

I ended up mounting the ballasts to some small plates, and these mounted on the front trun signal mounts inside the upper, standing upright. The Ignitors went under the headlights, just stuck em on the fairing. All tucked away, but a bit of a tight fit with the wires on the left side.

I also moded the wires to the upper... once I unbolt it, there are two connectors on each side... just unclip them and everything comes off in one piece. the wires for the right headlight and indicator (mod) run across the front of the motor, anong with the wires for the switchblock for that side (stock).

PM me if you want to know more :)

[QUOTE=Defender;7130]Others have mounted the ballasts on the inside of the lower inner cowl, and this of course would get sufficient airflow, but I didn't want to put mine there for aesthetic reasons. There is no room in the upper cowl for both the ballasts and the ignitors without bulging the inner cowl or the upper to the point of stressing the fasteners and risking cracks in the tupperware.

I'm gonna pull all my toys out this weekend and clean out the garage so I'll try to get a pic or two up. Yeah the fast system is sweet. I'm still learning how to use it so I can tweak for air temps and what not. Still not confident enough to make big changes cause I got so much $$$ in the car I can't afford to mess something up so I leave that to my tuner.

I was the same way. I made some small timing adjustments, added or removed some fuel, and trimmed the cranking fuel. The bulk of the tuning I left to the experts. I'd love to travel to Memphis and take a tuning class with those guys.

I have been running HIDs for over a year now. No problems :)

I ended up mounting the ballasts to some small plates, and these mounted on the front trun signal mounts inside the upper, standing upright. The Ignitors went under the headlights, just stuck em on the fairing. All tucked away, but a bit of a tight fit with the wires on the left side.

I also moded the wires to the upper... once I unbolt it, there are two connectors on each side... just unclip them and everything comes off in one piece. the wires for the right headlight and indicator (mod) run across the front of the motor, anong with the wires for the switchblock for that side (stock).

PM me if you want to know more :)



stu, would it be possible for you to post some pics for everyone to see how you mounted the ballasts and ignitors. What type of connectors did you use for the lighting harness mod?

Guy's. Last warning. Take a chill pill or I'll shove one down you're throats. (Electronically of course) ;)

I'm gonna pull all my toys out this weekend and clean out the garage so I'll try to get a pic or two up. Yeah the fast system is sweet. I'm still learning how to use it so I can tweak for air temps and what not. Still not confident enough to make big changes cause I got so much $$$ in the car I can't afford to mess something up so I leave that to my tuner.

Please share!!!!!!!! :D

Posted some pics in the lounge

Hey Defender,

Give me a week or so, I am going to pull all the plastic off as I am half way through a mod for lowering the temp.

When I have it all apart, I will take plenty of happy snaps :)

Where is the best place to post the pics?

Hey Defender,

Give me a week or so, I am going to pull all the plastic off as I am half way through a mod for lowering the temp.

When I have it all apart, I will take plenty of happy snaps :)

Where is the best place to post the pics?

You could always start a new thread...:rolleyes:

You could always start a new thread...:rolleyes:

LOL. I think he meant a hosting site. You can upload them directly into the thread using the "Manage Attachments" button in the Reply to Thread screen.

LOL. I think he meant a hosting site. You can upload them directly into the thread using the "Manage Attachments" button in the Reply to Thread screen.

IMO the best hosting site is image shack.

I was going through a few pics on the computer the other day, and came across this. Sorry for the quality, it was taken with a phone, but at least you get the general idea.

When I next pull the fairing off, I will take better pics.

Hope this works: http://s624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/stu494/

I was going through a few pics on the computer the other day, and came across this. Sorry for the quality, it was taken with a phone, but at least you get the general idea.

When I next pull the fairing off, I will take better pics.

Hope this works: http://s624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/stu494/

Pics dont work when I try to view them normal size. Only the thumbnail pics work. Email them to me at taos75 at hotmail dot com

Email sent :)

Picture works....
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/stu494/HIDMountPoints.jpg

So I am thinking of ordering a HID kit for my 03 RC I need the better lighting at night. I had even thought about the single ballast hook it up to my bights then keep the lobeams halogen so during the day I dont use the HID.

My question is what system and set up is best? I googled found a few links

http://www.motorcyclehidlights.com/honda-rc51-hid-lights-c-97_605


http://www.xtralights.com/hidxenonmotorcycleconversionkitsmotorcyclehidkithi dconversionkits.aspx


http://www.motorcyclehidlights.com/honda-rc51-hid-lights-c-97_605/digital-hid-kit-slim-ballasts-p-209



http://www.motorcyclehidlights.com/honda-rc51-hid-lights-c-97_605/motorcycle-hid-kit-p-195


Clueless really on what to order.