: Power Commander
mighty max 04-21-2009, 07:36 PM Guys, we all know dat our RC51 must have PC on it...I was thinking to order from Dan Kyle & asked him to instal me the Best mapping but he replied ok but was'nt sure the fuel here in Spore is the same in US because the mapping was done in States..In Spore we have 95,98 & best petrol is just across the border..PETRONAS..better then the Shell V power..We have a few dyno center but mostly they aint good...2 feller on RC51 dyno..but when they hit to the track to test...the bike just shut off when during hard braking...rite now my bike is feelin rich on burning...
can i used the sato mapping here in Spore ? as our wheather is freekin ard 32-36 degree celsius...Hot & wet...
Hydroboy35th 04-22-2009, 02:25 AM Only one way to find out!, try it.
mighty max 04-22-2009, 09:59 AM roger dat boss...anymore mods should done to the bike... so far what i done is
1. Scorpion steel slip on
2. Flapper valve
3. Brembo RCS master pump
4. Goldfren race pads front
jgos929 04-23-2009, 12:42 PM I don't know why you would use the sato map with scorpion slipons???
Just try all the different maps till you find one you like
SubSailor 04-23-2009, 03:59 PM Better yet, have your bike dyno'd to your actual configuration.
Expensive, yes. But your map will match your bike exactly.
mighty max 04-24-2009, 05:45 AM Better yet, have your bike dyno'd to your actual configuration.
Expensive, yes. But your map will match your bike exactly.
Well cant find any good tuner in Singapore...well heard dat Sato mapping is good...
rexmitchell 04-27-2009, 08:04 PM DO you guys run a PCIII usb? Or do they even make one for the 2000 rc51, I am looking at getting one for my bike.
SubSailor 04-27-2009, 10:20 PM While the PCIIIUSB for the SP1's have a different part number than the ones for the SP2's, essentially they are the same unit. The default maps are different.
rexmitchell 04-27-2009, 11:06 PM While the PCIIIUSB for the SP1's have a different part number than the ones for the SP2's, essentially they are the same unit. The default maps are different.
So they are compatible? I only ask because the guy that I dyno with wants a usb PCIII.....I would be good buying one for a SP2?
SubSailor 04-27-2009, 11:27 PM So they are compatible? I only ask because the guy that I dyno with wants a usb PCIII.....I would be good buying one for a SP2?
The one for the SP2 should work on an SP1.
Or you could buy one for an SP1, if you're buying a new one. They still make them.
rexmitchell 04-27-2009, 11:29 PM The one for the SP2 should work on an SP1.
Or you could buy one for an SP1, if you're buying a new one. They still make them.
I just need a USB one, I think they make one for the sp1
SubSailor 04-27-2009, 11:42 PM I just need a USB one, I think they make one for the sp1
Power Commander part number 105-411 for SP1, 114-411 for SP2.
mighty max 04-28-2009, 06:42 AM Mine is on the way..Should be arriving next Friday...Ordered from Dan Kyle...not sure wether he installed my mapping dat i requested to him..Subsailor, i thought the PC3 for RC51 can be used for SP1 & SP2?...
SubSailor 04-28-2009, 10:36 AM Mine is on the way..Should be arriving next Friday...Ordered from Dan Kyle...not sure wether he installed my mapping dat i requested to him..Subsailor, i thought the PC3 for RC51 can be used for SP1 & SP2?...
They are. If you buy them new they come with a default map for the specific model.
If you buy them used, then you'll need to remap for your specific model.
jgos929 04-28-2009, 12:35 PM Mine is on the way..Should be arriving next Friday...Ordered from Dan Kyle...not sure wether he installed my mapping dat i requested to him..Subsailor, i thought the PC3 for RC51 can be used for SP1 & SP2?...
You bought your pc from Dan Kyle How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking???
I'm asking cause I have this funny feeling you could have gotten it alot cheaper somewhere else and then just went to any of several websites including his own and downloaded one of his maps.
rexmitchell 04-28-2009, 12:53 PM yea who has the best deal on a PC?
rexmitchell 04-28-2009, 09:09 PM OK found some more info on the PCIII USB and i have found a website that has a map already made for the arrow pipes I have on my RC....would I be good to go with just buying a PC and then downloading that map or do I still need to dynotune? Is it as easy as plug and play like that>?
SubSailor 04-28-2009, 09:19 PM OK found some more info on the PCIII USB and i have found a website that has a map already made for the arrow pipes I have on my RC....would I be good to go with just buying a PC and then downloading that map or do I still need to dynotune? Is it as easy as plug and play like that>?
The map may get you into the ballpark and actually run decent.
The best (and most expensive) way is to create your own map using a dyno.
I myself am currently using the map created on the dyno from my Jardine 2-1 exhaust, even though I'm using an Akrapovic full system.
I'm not having any obvious issues and it seems to run fine, but I still plan on fine tuning it on the dyno when I get a chance.
rexmitchell 04-28-2009, 11:23 PM The map may get you into the ballpark and actually run decent.
The best (and most expensive) way is to create your own map using a dyno.
I myself am currently using the map created on the dyno from my Jardine 2-1 exhaust, even though I'm using an Akrapovic full system.
I'm not having any obvious issues and it seems to run fine, but I still plan on fine tuning it on the dyno when I get a chance.
My mechanic dynotunes for 240 a pop....I might just go with that instead.
jgos929 04-29-2009, 10:42 AM The map may get you into the ballpark and actually run decent.
The best (and most expensive) way is to create your own map using a dyno.
I myself am currently using the map created on the dyno from my Jardine 2-1 exhaust, even though I'm using an Akrapovic full system.
I'm not having any obvious issues and it seems to run fine, but I still plan on fine tuning it on the dyno when I get a chance.
Sub come on man a 2:1 map on a full akrapovic system??? Your WAY under powered !!!! The bike cant possibly feel right. Get that thing to the dyno bud.
My mechanic dynotunes for 240 a pop....I might just go with that instead.
Remember you gotta get the pc and then dyno so that $240 just turned into well over $500
SubSailor 04-29-2009, 02:58 PM Hey it's on my to-do list. :)
rexmitchell 04-29-2009, 06:00 PM Sub come on man a 2:1 map on a full akrapovic system??? Your WAY under powered !!!! The bike cant possibly feel right. Get that thing to the dyno bud.
Remember you gotta get the pc and then dyno so that $240 just turned into well over $500
oh I know but thats the cost of speed I guess
SubSailor 04-29-2009, 07:32 PM oh I know but thats the cost of speed I guess
Well she seems to do 155 MPH with no sweat, so I figured I'd put the dyno job a little down on the priorities list.
I'll get to it soon.
mighty max 04-29-2009, 08:29 PM They are. If you buy them new they come with a default map for the specific model.
If you buy them used, then you'll need to remap for your specific model.
Mine is brand new. Meaning that, i just plung & play or i have to install the mapping? I asked to installed for me qa best mapping for my Sp1..but when i check with Alex, he told me it left as stock...Oh ya jogs929..i bought ard usd$269 , shipping add usd $20 =$289...subsailor, he gave me SP2 model 114-411..& did not installed any mapping..well tgat they before ordered from him, i have told my details & asked to installed...very sad..sob..sob
mighty max 04-29-2009, 08:32 PM A buddy of mine ordered from our local dyno center for Singapore dollar $680 + dyno but i got few bad feedback on his dyno..
SubSailor 04-29-2009, 09:13 PM A buddy of mine ordered from our local dyno center for Singapore dollar $680 + dyno but i got few bad feedback on his dyno..
Is this person using a DynoJet unit (by the same folks who created the Power Commander)?
After watching my bike being dyno'd, it's hard to understand how you can screw up a dyno session.
The computer tells you what to do.
For each gear, the computer has you make runs at various throttle settings leading up to full throttle.
If your bike doesn't have one, a lambda sensor is inserted into the exhaust pipe to measure O2 content.
The computer controls the brake in the wheel drum to vary the load on the engine.
After all these runs at various throttle settings are done, the computer calculates the map and downloads it to the PC.
It's not hard, just time (and fuel) consuming.
mighty max 04-29-2009, 09:35 PM my friend who when there dyno his Rc51@1 using PC2 & the other PC3usb...When he tested on the track,the bike just cut off@dies off(when he about to enter corner & hard braking)...2 Rc51 member had the same problem & they DYno at the same shop..
jgos929 04-29-2009, 10:24 PM Mighty the price you paid is pretty good. The cheapest I seen them so far new was $249.
Sub she might do 155 but your plugs are either glowin red or black as coal :eek:
mighty max 04-29-2009, 10:29 PM Dan gave me SP2 PC3...& i'm ridin SP1..issit possible just plug & ride?...& what is 155??
SubSailor 04-29-2009, 10:30 PM Mighty the price you paid is pretty good. The cheapest I seen them so far new was $249.
Sub she might do 155 but your plugs are either glowin red or black as coal :eek:
Nope. They're both actually a nice pretty tan. :)
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp158/rc51/sparkplug.jpg
mighty max 04-29-2009, 10:40 PM Yesterday i hit 270km/h on a Hway a cross the border...stock execpt for scorpion race slip on...anyone using the 15bhp mod chip from ebay.. A friend used it@ feedback from him-
1.EZ to install
2.RPM fast response
jgos929 04-30-2009, 10:43 AM If your plugs look that good using a 2:1 map with a full akra system then I have to agree with fine pooch that the pc3 is pointless and not needed.
That doesn't make any sense
mighty max 05-02-2009, 04:28 AM Guys, when my PC3 arrive can i plug & play or need to remap . I ordered from Dan PC3 for SP1 but they send SP2..If i need to changed the program, how does it goes?..i really need help of this..
SubSailor 05-02-2009, 12:50 PM You can go to Power Commander's web site and download the base map for the SP1.
Here's the map number and description:
M105-301 Stock bike, stock exhaust, and stock, or K&N air filter.
mighty max 05-05-2009, 10:50 AM Ok, PC3 just arrived...question to ask,,how many hours or days if u send your bike for dyno?..my fren just over his SP1...takes only 4hrs..ended 122bhp...
jgos929 05-05-2009, 02:16 PM It should only take a couple of hours to do the tune
mighty max 05-06-2009, 05:12 AM i will fix 2morow & download maps..
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