I have a 2003 rc51 and love it i have fmf powercore 2 ti exaust power commander III usb and k & n air filter flapper mod is done to the bike and was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to get a little more power out of this thing without redoing the whole motor? i'm planning on building the motor when i get the money but kinda strapped right now any idea's would be awesome

Do you have the PAIR system installed still? Power is not that big of deal.Weight is a big issue. I was thinking of FMF cans. How do they sound and do you have pics with them on it?

Personally, I would not ever crack the motor of a Honda product. I believe you would lose reliability. The mods you have done are good ones. If you want more power from a V-Twin sportbike, buy a Ducati. Or buy an Inline 4 to satisfy your craving for power. Just my opinion

Yeah i will have some pics of the exaust by the end of the week for you and basilly i would like just a little more power to make wheelies easier i know that sounds funny but i'm a rather small guy i am only 5'7" and weight about 130 lbs and i was wondering about the pair system but could someone point me to a good place or give me good directions on how to take care of that problem thanks

If you want a wheelie machine, go up two teeth on the rear sprocket!

Yeah i will have some pics of the exaust by the end of the week for you and basilly i would like just a little more power to make wheelies easier i know that sounds funny but i'm a rather small guy i am only 5'7" and weight about 130 lbs and i was wondering about the pair system but could someone point me to a good place or give me good directions on how to take care of that problem thanks

Am I reading this right??? Your 5'7" and weigh 130 and wheelies are hard for you???:confused: Your bike might be broken if it won't wheelie for you easily. I'm 6'2" 220 and I have no problems popping it up. I'm not a big wheelie guy but I don't have trouble raising it. I agree change your gearing and if your still having problems buy an I4

lol thanks for that i already owned a I4 and love the rc more it wheelies good but it just seems like i got to musle it up in second gear i don't do clutch wheelies cause i don't like them i'm talking strictly power wheelies. i heard of an airbox mod to give you a couple hp it that something i can do or do you have to buy a aftermarket airbox

I was hoping someone could tell me how to do the pair system mod and what i need for it also thinking about doing the soft rev mod and and just curious anyone who has changed thier gearing how much is your speedo off cause mine is 10 mph fast (reads 70 when doing 60)

:mad: sounds like a squid and we are about to lose another rc51 to the dumbass stunt club. RIP RC51.

if you want to wheelie get a bike made for that. Suzuki GSXR, R6, R1, CBR. NOT A RC51, this bike was made for racing, NOT STUNTING.









dumbass

Well, I don't race my RC. That must make me a dumbass! I don't wheelie it either. I have never been able to do wheelies on any of my sportbikes.
But if some one does occasional wheelies on their bike, I have no problem with that. As long as they not endangering anyone but themself. I doubt he dented the tank in, added a 12 o'clock bar,and rear brake lever. Most people that own an RC51, know they don't make good stunt bikes!

:mad: sounds like a squid and we are about to lose another rc51 to the dumbass stunt club. RIP RC51.

if you want to wheelie get a bike made for that. Suzuki GSXR, R6, R1, CBR. NOT A RC51, this bike was made for racing, NOT STUNTING.









dumbass

Don't sugarcoat it. Tell everyone how you really feel.:rolleyes:

well i don't race my bike but doing wheelie isn't stunting i did stunt my gsxr and sure it's fun but the rc isn't made for stunting but it has a super sweet balance point and just cause someone does wheelies don't make them a dumbass not to be mean or make enemies but i love ridin on one wheel what can i say

Well, I don't race my RC. That must make me a dumbass! I don't wheelie it either. I have never been able to do wheelies on any of my sportbikes.
But if some one does occasional wheelies on their bike, I have no problem with that. As long as they not endangering anyone but themself. I doubt he dented the tank in, added a 12 o'clock bar,and rear brake lever. Most people that own an RC51, know they don't make good stunt bikes!

The only problem with this statement is 90% of the time someone does a wheelie it is endangering everyone around them. I have a feeling this guy isn't going to a contolled environment and popping it up. He's doing it out on the closest major road or highway and in front of girls every chance he gets.

well i don't race my bike but doing wheelie isn't stunting i did stunt my gsxr and sure it's fun but the rc isn't made for stunting but it has a super sweet balance point and just cause someone does wheelies don't make them a dumbass not to be mean or make enemies but i love ridin on one wheel what can i say

You are wrong my friend very very wrong.....Wheelies are as much a stunt as the day is long. You can ride on one wheel all you want but every time you talk about it your gonna get flamed. Again its a race bike for the street. They're just not meant to be ridden up on one. But good luck to you my friend and I'll be keeping my eye's open in the for sale thread after you wreck it and decide to part out whats left of it.

while wheelies might still be a stunting how ever there is a different between doing a wheelie and stunting a bike. and if wheelie are so bad how come u see race bikes doing them all the time after a race and while some people might do wheelie to impress gurls how ever i pefer to do them somewhere where if something goes wrong it is only my life and body to be injured not anyone esles not everyone is the same and everyone is entiled to their own views but i do not judge people for what they do and if you all want to judge me for doing wheelies that your own protigitive but my question is how is railing corners on a rc any more dangous than me doing a wheelie even if it's on the track you go down you could take other riders with you

most people who own a RC51 don't do wheelies on it. For one, this is a very rare bike that was built for one purpose, RACING. We should be lucky that they actually released it to the public. You don't see the new Honda race bikes available for the public and probably never will. This bike is in all aspects a race bike with turn signals. The guys who do use it as a race bike, for the most part do it on the track, They respect the bike and what it means to have this part of Honda history. I am not going to say i am perfect by any means, i was young and dumb like you at one time, but thankfully grew up before it was to late and i thankfully did not hurt anyone. If i wanted to race my RC51 i would do it on a track. If i wanted to do wheelies and other crap, I would do it on a closed course somewhere, but not on a RC51. Like others i will wait for you to trash it, then wait till you part it out. Yes, you do see pro riders do it (ON A CLOSED RACE COURSE). are you on a race course when you are doing this. when you do this or any other stupid trick on on any bike on the open road, you are putting other people in danger.

Just my 3 cents.

Gobi,
15/43 gearing is your answer.

For what it's worth, I don't do wheelies. I also don't race... or pose... or polish my frame... or wear a WW1 German soldier helmet when I ride... or wear flip-flops... or sport a leather vest with my crew's logo on the back...

But I see people do it all the time, and I just smile and wave. My philosophy is: do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't affect me. And afford me the same courtesy in return.

So Gobi nuts! But don't hurt anybody else.

Eric

Thank you Gripper and i do respect others and and thier views and don't try to dis anyone for what they do and just to empize there is no bike on the market designed to do wheelies no maunfacter has made a bike deciated to stunting or any thing else every i4 out there is consider a race replica and i am proud to own a RC it is one of my faviorte bikes ever and i maybe young compared to most of the riders on here but i have been riding sport bikes for over 10 years now and have rode many honda's and i am glad there is a bike that inspires this kind of deicition to the sport and the machine and the point i was making is that they may do it on a closed course but i own a rc and i know that most of you ride hard on the road as well as the track and takin corners hard is just as dangous as doing a wheelie and you are just as likely to hurt someone else doing that. i'm by no means saying that i don't rail corners on the street cause i do but just cause i don't just like to do one thing with a bike doesn't mean it's bad and forgive me for not being rich and being able to aford to have two bike i have to make due with just one. so all i say is to each thier own and may you all see many more days of ridin'

That was probably the longest sentence I have ever read or seen in my life.

If you don't mind me asking Gobi how old are you and where are you from? I'm not trying to be rude but your ability to misspell just about every other word and your lack of ability to form a sentence or pronunciate correctly is amazing. It leads me to believe that you haven't been riding for 10 years atleast street bikes anyways.

Do what you want bro just remember that if you treat your bike like a gsxr people are gonna flame you for it.

Also I would rather wreck pushing it around a turn doing what it was mean't to do then wreck it out doing a wheelie. People show alot more respect to you when you low or high side it rather than stunting on it.

well i am from Wisconsin and i'm 26 yr old and i'm sorry for my grammar and spelling. I never could spell and English never was my strongest subject. I do not treat my rc like my gsxr and i have low sided my gsxr and my zx6 that i had. Also I have brought a 900rr back over on top of myself and went over the bars on zx10. I have learned something from every accident. i still may not be a great rider but i respect my bike cause i have seen first hand what not respecting a bike can do to you. While I may not be the greatest rider i still strive to be the very best that i can be at everything i try. Now if you want to fault me for that, that is your prerogative. I agree that the RC was ment for racing however just cause i love the rc doesn't mean i should race it. Some people just aren't meant for racing. I simple love to ride and ride my own way and everyone on this forum does the same weather or not they say it. I say this because we all own an RC and the RC is a statement of standing out of the crowd, to be different. I believe it was you jgos929 that said that very statement in a different thread. When i come in to money i will buy a bike just for stunting but till then i'm stuck with one bike to do it all and as far as i know there really is no better bike to ride than a rc

Very well said. Spoken like a true adult.

I've been known to bring out the best in people.

thank you i know we have gotten off topic but since i am speaking to a man whom seems to have much knowledge on the rc i have heard of the pair system and would like to know how to remove it. I'm have some knowledge of bikes but a detailed post would be nice on how to do it and what i need to get. also would like to do the soft rev mod any items i would need for that as well thanks much

No problem bud always here to help when I can.

Go here for the soft rev.

http://www.rc51.org/b2a15.htm

Go here for the pair.

http://www.rc51.org/pair.htm


And here is what I'm rolling.

http://www.rc51forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722

Thanks for the links do you have any motor work done to your bike or is it still stock

pc3
2:1 custom GP exhaust
pair mod
flapper mod
Soft Rev mod
TurnOne airbox & snorkel
Steel braided brake lines front & rear
Cut & Chopped front & rear rotors
SpeedCell battery (saved me from having to lose weight)

Thats about all I have done. No motor work cause I don't want to jack with the structural integrity of the motor. You start doing high compression pistons and what not and you really cut out half if not more of the life of the motor. If I do anything with the motor I'll get the heads ported and thats it.

does your airbox and snokrel give you a little more horsepower

just did the pair mod man was that a pain in the ass or maybe it is just my bike lol. Next up the soft rev mod. my only question is it easier to buy that kit off of rougue 51's site or build a kit your self. if you build a kit your self what all do you have to buy

Im looking to get some more power out of my RC as well, i went up two teeth in the rear and have aftermarket exhaust and the powercommander. I hate doing wheelies i like to take this thing hard into the corners and grind my knee puck down. I guess im just getting too comfortable with the speed of the bike and would like some simple aftermarket upgrades as well to boost hp. I dont want to do any engine work cause honda makes a reliable engine, i just want some simple stuff to boost the hp up another 10-15hp, Anyone know some simple stuff to do?

well the pair mod, the flapper mod and the soft limiter mod are all basicly free and the links are posted above in a prevouious post. I have a K and N air filter that might help you other than those it looks like buying an modified airbox and snorkel don't know how much power it will give you and a full exaust might help a little more than a slip on other than that your really not going to gain any horse power unless you get into the motor but you could put some fiberglass or carbonfiber parts to loose some weigh and incress your power to weight ratio; also going to a 520 chain and sprocket conversion will help you loose some unsprung weight and some lighter wheels and rotors will also help with this. none of these will give you more power but will make your bike quicker than what it is right now

i'm sorry here is the link for the flapper mod it was not listed above my bad
http://www.rc51.org/valve.htm

It takes alot of $$$ to get 10-15 horse outta these things. Do the flapper, pair and soft rev mods for sure. The soft rev alone is good for probably 5hp but only at the tip of the top end. Not alot of power in the pair it just helps exhaust scavenging. The flapper is probably good for a couple. A full exhaust is always better but your gonna pay a ton of dough for it. Air box and snorkel is a great investment and will give you good power and shave some weight. Thats the best way to make the 51 faster is shaving weight. Once you get all that get it custom tuned and you'll be good to go. If you want anymore you'll need to go into the motor. You could do a simple port & polish of the heads through hord for about $895 and pick up some more horse but after that its cams and pistons.

jgos929

What part of Dallas are you in? I am about to take delivery of an 2002 RC 51 and would really like someone close that I might be able to absorb some knowledge from. Right now she is bone stock but I just bought parts for her that should be here by the time I pick her up Saturday morning.

I bought a ...
GPR Dampner
PC3
Yosh RS-1s

What else other than the couple of tricks mentioned earlier in the thread do I need to think of?

jgos929

What part of Dallas are you in? I am about to take delivery of an 2002 RC 51 and would really like someone close that I might be able to absorb some knowledge from. Right now she is bone stock but I just bought parts for her that should be here by the time I pick her up Saturday morning.

I bought a ...
GPR Dampner
PC3
Yosh RS-1s

What else other than the couple of tricks mentioned earlier in the thread do I need to think of?

Whats up bud I'm in Plano North of Dallas. I see your in Haslet thats not to far of a ride. Your off to a pretty good start so far. The free mods mentioned earlier will gain you some weight loss and a couple of free horse so might as well do them when you get the chance. Definately do a gear and chain swap when you get the chance unless the previous owner already did it. If your like me and hate pulling the fairings off wait and do the free mods next time you change the oil. You mention jeeps in your other post thats funny cause me and my buddy are in the beginning stages of restoring a 1949 Willys CJ2A. I'd be happy to help you out with anything concerning the 51 so just let me know

pics of mine here http://www.rc51forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722

I know Jeeps like the back of my hand. I have built many XJs and TJs my last XJ was on 39.5s and I just sold a M38A1 that I built rolling on 44s. I think I am going to try and do it all at one time this weekend to maximize my smile and see if I can get my cheeks to hurting!

pics of mine here http://www.rc51forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722


I am at work so I can not see the pics until I get home.:mad:

We're trying to restore the cj2a back to original. My uncle has another M38A1 that was sitting next to the one we have but it was so far gone I don't know if it can be brought back. After you get everything installed let me know how it runs. The yosh map for the power commander is a great map. Whoever at dyno jet built that map did their home work. I have used that map for many different setups and it works great. Stay away from the sato map its junk just stick with the yosh.

I pick here up at 9:30 Saturday morning on 380 in Denton and hopefully by 11:30 I will be tearing into her. I'll bring the laptop out and load the bin file and see how she goes. I will let you know for sure.

JGOS, do you mean the Kyle/Sato map? That's what I have now, what changes would I see if I switched to the Yosh map? I have Akra slip-ons for what its worth...

JGOS, do you mean the Kyle/Sato map? That's what I have now, what changes would I see if I switched to the Yosh map? I have Akra slip-ons for what its worth...
I suggested the yosh map because ghost is running yosh pipes. What cans are you running? If your running satos with akra mids then keep the kyle map. The yoshi map is a good all around map but with your mids and cans it would probably lean u out to much. People swear by the kyle map just like they swear by rogue.org and both aren't all that.

I have an Akrapovich slip-on system, came with the bike. It didn't have a PC, so I talked to a guy at Kyle Racing, and he said their Sato tune would be fine with my Akra's, so I have that on it now. It definetly helped with exhaust pop or backfiring, and throttle response, but if there's more to be had I'm all ears. I still need to do the flapper, PAIR, and soft rev mods though, I have the parts just need to put the time in.

I have an Akrapovich slip-on system, came with the bike. It didn't have a PC, so I talked to a guy at Kyle Racing, and he said their Sato tune would be fine with my Akra's, so I have that on it now. It definetly helped with exhaust pop or backfiring, and throttle response, but if there's more to be had I'm all ears. I still need to do the flapper, PAIR, and soft rev mods though, I have the parts just need to put the time in.

There is definitley more to be had especially with that exhaust. But your only gonna get there with custom tuning which I highly recommend. Do the free mods first then go to get a custom map. Use the sato map as a starting point and let the tuner adjust from there. I GUARANTEE you will do even better and it will run even better then it does now. Shoot you'll pick up 3-5 horse just doing the soft rev mod but only on the top end near redline. The flapper mod basically just helps you lose some weight and the Pair mod just helps the exhaust scavenge alittle better.

Does anyone know where i can get my PC III custom tuned in the New Jersey area? I have an 03 RC51 with jardine exhaust, 15/43 gearing on Renthal sprockets and DID 530 chain, CRG levers,Galfer lines,HRC pads, flapper and pair mod done but i was told to keep the honda air filter its supposely better then K&N was i misinformed. Sorry for any spelling and grammer errors im not to smart Im just a dumb jailguard that likes to ride my RC....

Does anyone know where i can get my PC III custom tuned in the New Jersey area? I have an 03 RC51 with jardine exhaust, 15/43 gearing on Renthal sprockets and DID 530 chain, CRG levers,Galfer lines,HRC pads, flapper and pair mod done but i was told to keep the honda air filter its supposely better then K&N was i misinformed. Sorry for any spelling and grammer errors im not to smart Im just a dumb jailguard that likes to ride my RC....

Get on dynojets website and they will point you to whoever does custom tuning in your area. The stock filter is all you need. The K&N can actually hurt your performance.