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Crutchlow moves to Ducati for 2014.

It's official now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/23536326

I guess it was the obvious career move based on the lack of current choices. Clearly unlikely he'd get a factory ride from Yamaha any time soon and he needs to be making some serious money, but I hope Audi injects some serious money & the Ducati becomes a competitive bike next year. Crutchlow deserves a proper bike!

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Good luck to Cal. He'll need it since the current Ducati is stuck in a rut per Dovi.
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Yeah, there's no doubt the Ducati needs serious improvement. I can't help thinking it's the frame's design or lack of it (frame). If you make a monocoque chassi'd car too stiff, there's a point it will cause it's forgiveness on the limit to diminish. I think a similar effect happens by making the engine the main component of the structure but I'm sure Ducati know exactly what the problem is if it's really the frame. But with so much investment into this area, they cannot go back to a conventional frame, as that would be a huge marketing own-goal.

Both Dovi & Crutchlow deserve a serious bike to show what they're really capable of (Well Dovi already had the chance and he blew it! ).

All IMHO of course.

Stoner was / is an amazing rider. He had always raced bikes with problems at the beginning of his career, because his parents couldn't afford to provide better but he was still a champion. Perhaps this is why he could tame the Ducati (...sometimes). Hopefully Crutchlow has a bit of the same skills to ride around problems as Stoner, but he might break a few bones trying to go fast on the Duc.

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Ducati did go back to a conventional spar frame a while ago.
It's better, but still has major issues that they haven't found or cured yet.
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I stand corrected. Thanks Sub.

Hmm, no idea why it's still such an evil bike compared to the rest on the limit then.

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They still haven't found what the issues are.
Sometimes you just can't band-aid a bad design.
Witness the Aprilia Cube. A forerunner of today's bikes, but too much cutting edge tech for it's time.
Today, it would probably fit right in.

And Yamaha today announced Pol Espargaro at Tech3 next year.
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Honestly, I think he has a better shot at winning races on the satellite Yamaha than the factory Ducati.

I haven't been watching the last couple months, so barring any of those races (don't tell me, I have them all saved for later!) When was the last time a Ducati even podiumed? I think there was one or two top five finishes in the last couple seasons?

Cal is taking a gamble, and I hope it works out for him. I personally think it's too big of a gamble, unless he was able to get something in his contract to the effect of "Audi will spend as much money as they need to, in order to fix this POS, or I walk with the full contract payment."




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Honestly, I think he had a better shot at winning races on the satellite Yamaha than the factory Ducati.
Corrected that for you.
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I thought I had read somewhere that Ducati had shifted some ballast back to the front end of the bike to get some better front end feel as well . Riders said it was better , but not there yet . As for next year , you probably remember seeing Dovi out in practice on the " new and improved 2014 chassis and the front end washed out and the bike was totaled

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As I mentioned in another thread, I read an article where Nicky explained what happened to Duc. They were using a different frame than the Japaneese bikes and were tuning the bike through the custom tires that were available to them. Once GP went to the "Spec" tires, the tires chosen we the ones that worked best for the majority of the bikes on the paddock (not Duc). That left Duc with tires that did not work on their bike, and also eliminated the usual way that they used to tune the chassis. They have now redesigned the entire chassis and hope to convert to it next year. Recent tests have shown that the current chassis is still faster, although the new frame promises to more adjustable by means other than tires.
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