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Superlite steel rear sprockets

I don't want to start a shit storm here or anything, but I think I've recommended the Superlite steel rear sprockets here enough to warrant posting something I found:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=354999


Not that the RC51 has anywhere near the same power as the R1, but I'd still be wary. Personally, I won't be recommending or using them again.




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Damn!

I've heard bad things about them from other places/people too. But I think it was about the aluminum and steel modular thing they make

Personally, if any aftermarket manufacturers' products fail or has a bad rap on the streets. Posting about it here is warranted to help others decide on what products buy.
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I unfortunately have one of these sprockets on my bike. Replacing it with a Driven steel unit especially after seeing the pictures. Unacceptable.


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Doesn't the R1 use a 530 chain and sprockets as standard?, sticking a 520 on is asking for trouble as the sprockets are thinner and less able to take higher amounts of tractive thrust, especially something with as much metal cut off it like they are IMO

My stock Sv650 had a 525 chain, it had 70 bhp, R1's have more than double that and you are removing 6.3mm or 2/8" off the thickness of the sprockets by going 530 to 520
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Doesn't the R1 use a 530 chain and sprockets as standard?, sticking a 520 on is asking for trouble as the sprockets are thinner and less able to take higher amounts of tractive thrust, especially something with as much metal cut off it like they are IMO

My stock Sv650 had a 525 chain, it had 70 bhp, R1's have more than double that and you are removing 6.3mm or 2/8" off the thickness of the sprockets by going 530 to 520
We've been thru this numerous times, but for new peeps, 520 is plenty strong enough for the RC51, and many other liter bikes. Buy quality, and you're ok.
Drive, AFAM, and DID is a 520 combination that is solidly reliable.
I've geared down to 15/42 and DID-ERV3. Three years of wringing the throttle and nary a problem.

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I don't want to start a shit storm here
Since when??

Its good of you to let folks know of this issue. I know I'd appreciate it if I was running one of these engineering marvels.



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We've been thru this numerous times, but for new peeps, 520 is plenty strong enough for the RC51, and many other liter bikes. Buy quality, and you're ok.
Driven, AFAM, and DID is a 520 combination that is solidly reliable.
I've geared down to 15/42 and DID-ERV3. Three years of wringing the throttle and nary a problem.
yes, most liter bike are able to take a 520(albeit with a reduction in service life), but what i am saying is if you are buying something with as much metal cut out of it as these superlight sprockets to make it that light it is also making it way more likely to fail as you went thinner as well as lighter so those tiny spokes will not be as strong, sprockets get loaded in both directions, (decel and accel) and that sprocket design is designed to be stronger against the accel forces with the dogleg design but its not going to be as good at handling you banging the bike down two or three gears and letting the clutch out.

what i am saying is that i will just buy a normal quality chain and sprockets, 98% of bikes on here are road bikes, for me the tiny (if noticeable) reduction in gyro effect is outweighed by the ability for it not the fuck me and my bike up should it go tits up, i will be replacing mine after the body work gets done, will change the gearing but probably just go for a D.I.D 530 again.
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I'd agree that if you aren't racing that the longer life of the 530 chain would probably outweigh the difference in weight. Not like you need 0-100 times on your 25mph sidestreet. lol Still, i loke the idea of the supersprox with the aluminum and steel combination. no way I'd use an all aluminum gear, but a mixed metal one would work well.

Right now I'm trying to decide on just a cheap new chain, or wait till spring and get all new stuff. the rear sprocket looks like new, but the chain has a ton of tight links and the axel is about as far back as you can go without it falling out the back of the bike. Plus all I see is listings for 104 link chains for the SP2 and the manual calls for a 106 link chain.
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Right now I'm trying to decide on just a cheap new chain, or wait till spring and get all new stuff. the rear sprocket looks like new, but the chain has a ton of tight links and the axel is about as far back as you can go without it falling out the back of the bike. Plus all I see is listings for 104 link chains for the SP2 and the manual calls for a 106 link chain.
your chain and sprockets have "worn" together, stick a new chain on the same sprockets and the wear on both will accelerate even faster, might be better leaving it till you can replace them all at same time IMO

Do it once and do it right..basically, will save you time + money as well by not having to redo it

just bang it on the credit card
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I've been using the Drive Systems Superlight Steels for several seasons now and I am merciless with them. ZERO problems.



Any product can fail especially if there is an installation error etc...


Anyone in the industry knows that the brands specifically mentioned like Vortex and Driven are some of the crappiest sprockets available... You want to talk about a design flaw the Driven Ducati quick change carrier uses tiny little bolts to hold the sprocket onto the carrier and MANY riders have been out on the track when those little bolts just back themselves out and release the sprocket off the carrier. At any rate without getting into details of a situation that doesn't really concern any of us I can say there there is some animosity occurring in that thread regardless of who is right or wrong and smear tactics are at play....

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