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Dan moto ti vs Ladybird ti slip-ons

Ok before you all freak out, just some questions. First off Im NOT comparing materials or build quality. I am simply trying to figure out if the Dan motos would be COMPARABLE in power output to the Ladybirds. If they are both 60mm inside diameter then what is the difference. Im not talking mids either, I already have tapered mids so that isn't an issue. SO where is the differences to be had??? Im pretty sure both are perforated tubes wrapped in insulation in a sleeve OH and BTW Danmoto told me via email they would be happy to accomadate any inlet size I need.

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DanMoto's would be a lot cheaper to replace if you dropped your bike.

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Good point. that is a serious consideration to take into account.

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Ok before you all freak out, just some questions. First off Im NOT comparing materials or build quality. I am simply trying to figure out if the Dan motos would be COMPARABLE in power output to the Ladybirds. If they are both 60mm inside diameter then what is the difference. Im not talking mids either, I already have tapered mids so that isn't an issue. SO where is the differences to be had??? Im pretty sure both are perforated tubes wrapped in insulation in a sleeve OH and BTW Danmoto told me via email they would be happy to accomadate any inlet size I need.



Now please Have at it!

There is no real way to tell unless you dyno them in the same bike at the same dyno, but if I'm not mistaken DanMoto says that doing so could cause damage to their cans?

Are you sure the DM are 60mm? I know the inlets are different 60mm vs 51mm (I think)...so I'm sure the internals and packing are different...but just speculation.

So DM said they will create inlets to fit other diameters (so you could throw DM's onto other mids)?

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True, I guess the only real way to find out is testing. But all I can do is bench dyno, or couch dyno. Im just trying to make an educated guess on this. I really would like Ladybirds but if I could get the same end result for less than half the price that would be a good deal! Yes Dan Moto will make the inlet for any size you need. I have 54mm mids so that is what I would get. But I was just using two like sizes for comparisons sake. Thanks for the inputs!

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Dan Moto ftw. Ladybirds are nice but way over priced. Not worth the extra cost at all

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I like the sound of that

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Did you get a price for just cans by chance? I'd be curious to see how much just cans are (custom made to 60mm).

Then play with it using autotune and the PCV vs the LBP. I know it is not dyno numbers, but a change in air/fuel values would suggest a difference in product and throughput right?

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No but I will, for some reason I didn't think of getting 60mm id . Then reducers to 54mm inlets.

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I guess you'd also need to compare materials. I believe LDB are full titanium so if Danmoto are titanium then OK to compare costs, but be sure they're all titanium incl. the perforated tube inside, like the LDB's, not just the sleeve.

There are usually differences such as these & others which make quality more expensive than budget stuff. If you don't drop the bike, but the Danmoto cans come apart after a while, or need re-packing earlier will it have been worth the saving?

As for your original question, no I don't think like for like diameters of silencer (Inner & outer) are going to be much different in power output. You might find it easier to locate a PCIII USB map for the LDB's than the Danmotos though...

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