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4, 3, or 2??

In the market for a new moto, fresh off selling my 06 zx. Not really in looking at another i4, although there is one on my short list. I basically do little to no commuting on the bike and it will be used purely for fun canyon twisties and maybe 2-5 trackdays a season. The short list consists of:

05-10 Speed Triple
916/996/998 Ducati
S2R 1000 Monster
SP2 RC51
04-09 RSV-R
Tuono
SuperDuke
06-current 1000rr


I know its kinda all over with naked bikes and sport bikes, but which do you think would be the best for the type of stuff I will be doing. I know I'll probably get a lot of biased answers, but I've found that RC owners tend to own a diverse selection of bikes and could probably give me a better idea of what to expect and look for in each model. I listed the Duc's although I think due to maintenance costs they're not too high up. Any other suggestions would also be greatly appreciated!

Initial lean is towards a SP2 if I can ever find one, with the RSV-R coming in 2nd.

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Having owned two Speed Triples and now an RC51, both bikes are an absolute blast. For a longer ride, the Speed Triples were by far the comfier bike. Very light, easy to turn in and with the short wheelbase, easy to pick the front wheel up. The RC is a different kettle of fish. It's heavier that's for certain but just as easy to throw into the turns. But I can't really compare the two because they are completely different machines. So I ain't much help.

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well I know which you would prefer for track duty, but is the triple just as good as the RC on back road twisties, or better? I've always loved the triples, but then again, every bike on my list is one I've lusted over since the first day I saw one.
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well I know which you would prefer for track duty, but is the triple just as good as the RC on back road twisties, or better? I've always loved the triples, but then again, every bike on my list is one I've lusted over since the first day I saw one.
Well, I consider myself an intermediate rider. Been riding since I was a child and have done a lot of track days in the past. With my level of skill, I find both bikes pretty equal on the twisties. Although, the RC does feel a little more planted. For an expert rider, they would say the RC wins hands down, which is true. But for an average rider, I'd put them on par. Very similar output from both bikes, stock of course.

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For daily commuting and play, the speed triple is hard to beat.
While it doesn't have the peak HP of the I-4s, it does have a lot of mid-range grunt.
The newer speed triples had chassis tweaks to put more weight on the front.
I wouldn't mind having one, but they don't have an actual front fairing similar to the FZ1 for instance. That does add more comfort on freeway commutes.

The 916/996/998 are sexy looking, but are a lot more maintenance intensive.
S2R 1000 Monster also a bit maintenance heavy with the engine.

The '05-'06 is considered the best model Gixxer 1000.
Very lightweight, lots of power, and still had great mid-range.
These models also had occaisional frame crack problems which was corrected by Suzuki.

The Tuono has a very nice torquey Rotax twin and handles great.
However, some Tuonos had problems with the regulator/rectifier overheating. Ditto for the RSV.

RC51. Not much more to say. Torquey, reliable, etc. Not to comfy for commuting, and fuel mileage not too great.

No KTM dealers in my area. So never ridden one.
Although I'd love to try a Superduke or RC8/R

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I had a K6 GSXR 1K. It was my first ever suzuki and I would not hesitate to pick up another K6. I actually almost got another one when I got my RC. If I had, I would probably be riding instead of doing a minor restoration. Which is common for any motorcycle that has been neglected. Speed Triples sound amazing and its another I would like to own one day. The Ducs and Aprilias are gonna cost some cash in the maintenance department. More so than a Jap bike. I tried test riding the Super Duke at a dealership in Nuremberg a couple years back but they were booked solid for test rides and I got busy and didnt go back. Im sure its glorious. Stick with the Jap stuff if you want to keep the costs down. But Im sure you already know that. Hell, I may sell you mine when Im done. I wont miss it. I havent even really ridden it.
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have you considered a triumph daytona? awesome bike for sure. Super easy to flick around corners, feels great to ride. has a nice deep tone, and perfect amount of power. if i build a pure track bike that is what i will buy.
If not a daytona i'd consider the RSV-R. Great bikes and plenty fun. Plus its still a twin. Great for the weekend run through the canyons or weekend at the track. they are surprisinglyvery cheap, maintenance free, and easy to work on. The Rotax motors are bulletproof. love my Aprilia.
Check out the AF1 aprilia forum.....plenty of low mileage nicely tuned bikes on there for very cheap. lots of great info as well.

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The '05-'06 is considered the best model Gixxer 1000.
Very lightweight, lots of power, and still had great mid-range.
These models also had occaisional frame crack problems which was corrected by Suzuki.
the 1000 i was refering to was the 06-current CBR1000rr, sorry for the confusion.

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have you considered a triumph daytona? awesome bike for sure. Super easy to flick around corners, feels great to ride. has a nice deep tone, and perfect amount of power. if i build a pure track bike that is what i will buy.
If not a daytona i'd consider the RSV-R. Great bikes and plenty fun. Plus its still a twin. Great for the weekend run through the canyons or weekend at the track. they are surprisinglyvery cheap, maintenance free, and easy to work on. The Rotax motors are bulletproof. love my Aprilia.
Check out the AF1 aprilia forum.....plenty of low mileage nicely tuned bikes on there for very cheap. lots of great info as well.
Are you refering to the 675 Daytona or the 955i Daytona?

I have actually been on AF1 lookin, there are indeed quite a few really nicely modded and fairly cheap RSV's.
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was referring to the 675. great bike.

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was referring to the 675. great bike.
I figured thats what you were refering to, not too much love for the 955i daytonas.. was looking for a 675 at first also, but they are too high demand and seem to hold their value a little too well.

I think the RC might be coming off the short list as well due to the fact that most people realized that they seem to be worth more in bits then as a whole

on a side note, anyone have salvaged title bikes? would you be concerned buying one?
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