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I purchased these wheels in late April and fitted them with Q3s and they don't fit . I purchased them from a distributer over @ Zilla . The original spacer that came with the wheel initially was too big , so they sent me a second one . Here are the spacers / really no different in height , throats are the same , just a different thickness on the brake side . The spacer needs to be 3mm smaller ;

Here' the response I get today ,

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"We think customers bike(Swing-arm)getting narrower than original.
(Like this old bike with same OEM wheel---very much possible become narrow)
Any way he already got right parts--we recommend to make little open by jack.
If he don't want it, That case to make shorter chain side spacer (Not brake side)"

What do you think of that?

( make the spacer on the chain side smaller so the chain won't run true )
I think that statement is a ****in joke right ?
I don't know what this is supposed to be , but if your telling me to spread open my swing arm with a jack , there's no ****in way I am doing that . After getting this PM , I went out to my shop and grabbed the 2 spacers . They are both about the same size , the 2nd one sent to me is around a 1/16" of an inch in difference as you can see . the throat that fits in the race is the same depth . The collar seems to be the only difference . I am going to take the original to a machine shop and have it milled to fit . That guy is a tool . I am not going to have anything good to say about this company . I purchase V-Tracks that are advertised as 12 spoke and I get 12 for the front and 10 for the rear . I have only dealt with the rear I haven't even tried to fit the front yet. Here it is mid July , I purchased these @ the end of April SO BEWARE guys if you are purchasing these for a RC51 !
The spacers have been too wide and they ( rear anyway ) won't fit and this is the final response I get today ;


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If the stock rear wheel fit fine, then i'm calling bs on the "spread your swingarm with a jack" comment. Have you tried dealing with cz directly to see what they say?
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I have a set of Tri-R's that came off an SP2, so I can measure the captive spacers if needed.
The bearing and spacer dimensions should be the same.
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I've had nothing but good dealings with Akdma in the past. I know he started up a small business a few years back. Don't know why he would start selling shitty aftermarket wheels from a shitty company?

I'd ask for a refund and get some decent wheels. At least you know a set of Marchesini or OZ wheels will have the same number of spokes front and rear.




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my spacers are 17mm chain side and 23mm brake side.

what bearings are on the brake side? 60/28RS?

and what bearings on chain side? 62052RS?


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I have a set of Tri-R's that came off an SP2, so I can measure the captive spacers if needed.
The bearing and spacer dimensions should be the same.
That would be very cool . Thank you , when you get a chance

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If the stock rear wheel fit fine, then i'm calling bs on the "spread your swingarm with a jack" comment. Have you tried dealing with cz directly to see what they say?
Yes I have when I first got the , when putting the rear Cush drive on the wheel there was a gap between the Cush and wheel so I called CZ and the person inthe other end told me that the spacer between the Cush and wheel was supposed to leave a small gap . It was hard for me to understand him due to his thick Japanese accent . I did repete myself so to get it right . I believe CZ is the one telling me to use the jack not Ak

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my spacers are 17mm chain side and 23mm brake side.

what bearings are on the brake side? 60/28RS?

and what bearings on chain side? 62052RS?
You may have hit on something there if you have CZ wheels as well . I have a 22.7 spacer on the sprocket side and I have a 22 mm & 23 mm for the brake side .? Please let me know if we are working towards the right direction . Thanks you guys

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yes i have CZ wheels in gold. my chain side is only 17mm and my brake side is 23mm

what bearings do you have on each side? maybe the spacers are not seating correctly


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Ok RC , this is what I have got : the spacer between the inside of the Cush to the wheel bearing race measures 21.5 mm , the race on the bearing on the geared side reads 40 55 7 , the bearing dust seal on the brake side reads 6006 2RS 037K . It does seem to be pushed way to the right ( brake side ) with that big ass spacer I have on the sprocket side . Thanks for taking the time . I'll check in later going to take another run by the beach . The ladies in the skimpy bikinis are out here in Hyannisport

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