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Steering Damper who is using them?

Which one?
does it add much improvement?
If so how?

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this is my second RC51 and i do track days group A and ride hard in the hills , and as long as the roads are will smooth ,i feel no dont need it , but when it gets bumpy at speed sometimes wish i had one .

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I use a scotts damper. It is nice insurance to have. Unfortunately a damper is one of those things that you don't really think you need until it is too late and you realize you should have bought one.

For almost all "legal" or sane street riding it is probably not needed. For the track I feel that it is a must have as it has saved my ass more time than I probably know of.



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I have a scotts too. I ran my bike for maybe 500 or so miles without it. We have a lot of twisties around here, and some are nice roads. But some get pretty choppy, especially the lesser used canyon roads. I noticed a difference when I mounted mine. It also helps a lot with the bumpy reflectors in the center lines of all the highways around here. You cant help eating a few of those under certain conditions around here.

Scotts is a great company to deal with too. My experience with them was gold! And I bought mine second hand. They didn't mind a bit, they got me lined up with the proper SP1 mount I needed.

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I have a GPR and love it wont ride a bike with out a Stabilizer on it around here
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Unfortunately a damper is one of those things that you don't really think you need until it is too late and you realize you should have bought one.
Never can predict the road, until you have to drive it...
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Thanks so it sounds like the damper does just that it will dampen out a jolt caused by what ever . . . at speed it sounds like its a nice stabilizer. Does it add any resistance while turning in? Is it progressive? Is that what the adjustment does?

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the instructors in my trackday organization say it's not necessary if your bike is well maintained, your suspension is set up properly, and you use good technique while riding. That being said, they do require anybody running the "A" group to have one.
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the instructors in my trackday organization say it's not necessary if your bike is well maintained, your suspension is set up properly, and you use good technique while riding. That being said, they do require anybody running the "A" group to have one.
Had a good discussion about that with a few top riders on another forum. The experienced ones said what you just said.

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The beauty behind the Scotts damper is that it behaves somewhat similarly to a high-end shock in that it has a high-velocity and low-velocity damping adjustments.

The low-velocity adjuster can be set to provide just enough damping to maintain stability without being noticeable while riding.

If a wobble does occur at speed, the high-velocity circuit should prevent those from increasing in amplitude to allow the bike to self-stabilize.

There's also the sweep adjusters where one can set the range of control past center where the damper has effect, from a narrow range to a wide range of fork movement.

Just like an adjustable shock, too much or too little damping is not beneficial and can defeat its purpose.
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