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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-25-2012, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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Am I crazy for considering a trade for a CBR600RR?

Well, I've done two track days on the RC51 and I've come to grips that it's a difficult bike to learn on. Following the advice of the coaches and control riders I decided to try and get on a CBR600RR instead. The problem that I'm running into it seems is that very few people seem to understand the RC51's value. I'd love to hold onto the RC51 for later when my skill level is at a point where I can utilize what the RC51 has to offer, but it's a bit beyond budget. That and I wouldn't mind binning an older CBR600RR on the track whereas I'd probably cry for a week if I did it on my RC51.

I've got a guy who might be offering me a 2003 CBR600RR that's pretty much stock for my RC51. The trade-off point is that my RC51 has about 26k miles on her while the CBR600RR has about 10k. The CBR600RR would be stripped and immediately be turned into a track bike. I wouldn't mind doing an even trade but all of my co-workers and friends are calling me crazy considering the work I've put into the RC51 (which I don't even really consider to be that much work).

I know it's like blasphemy for me to be posting this consideration on here, but I'd like some honest feedback... is the '03 CBR600RR really worth that much less if I'm just looking to get on a 600rr track bike?

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if you are riding track, the CBR makes more sense. RC51's are not rare. you can always pick one up again in the future.

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600rr are good track the RC and give her a good home.

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How is the bodywork on the cbr? If it is mint and the bike doesn't need anything immediately, it will probably be a good trade. What all do you have into your RC? If it is much, I would considering asking him to throw cash on top or allow you to pull some parts off. There are too many factors to guess at, but you are in the ballpark price-wise and the other bike has less miles and will probably be more fun on the track. I personally would go for a later model if you can. IIRC '03 was pretty early for the 600RR's, if not the first year?

And no, you are not crazy. If someone had offered me a well setup 600 for my bike (while it was whole), I would have probably considered it. As nice as the RC is, it really doesn't excel at any one given thing. That's why mine will be seeing more street miles while I save up for a dedicated track bike.

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The 600 is more suitable for track days than the RC. That is a fact.
Here in Greece, the '03 600s are selling at such price that you can buy two for the price of the RC, no matter the miles on their dash.
That's been said, I don't think is a fair trade to give the RC for a 03 CBR 600RR. You can have a '05 CBR with the inverted forks plus some cash on the RC's price. And the 26k miles on the RC is just its braking in. Their engine is so reliable that a RC with 40k miles equals to a 600 with 70k. So better keep the RC with all the work you've done on her and save up and get a real cheap 600 (maybe even a droped one) and turn it into a track bike. After you've learned some things on the track, you can easily sell it and continue with the RC....just my 0.2 cents

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I rode a friend's 2005 CBR600 a few weeks ago. Small lithe bike, easy to ride but not really as nice as the RC. No way I'd ever consider a swap for road or track riding, but I appreciate this is a different sort of circumstance.

Just buy a cheap but decent track bike and keep the RC51 at home.

Maybe they're available, but finding a really nice one may or may not be easy to do again if you ever decide you'd like another.
I think perhaps RC51's have also reached their rock bottom pricing in the States, good ones at least...
They're about half price in the States compared to what a good one costs in Japan... There are even RVT's being imported here by some of the larger dealers..!

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This has to be a gut wrencher of a decision for you. I'm not a track guy, but I'd be very hard pressed to give up my RC, it's just that special to me. The 600 is a fabulous track bike, just as all the 600s are; that's why you see so many of them doing it. For daily riding though, I much prefer the 1000rr over the 600. The litre bike just suits me better and the engine is so tractable around town it's a joy to ride, more so than my RC until I get outside the town limits. However, the salacious looks I get every time I ride the RC are worth their weight in gold for me. Even the folk that know me and my bike well still look longingly my direction. So yeah, if you can find any way at all to do it, save your coin and try to find a well priced 600 and keep that RC if you can. It's my heart's opinion talking, but that's why I own one, it's an affair of the heart.

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How about looking for a salvage title bike for the track? That's what I would do if I was interested in getting into track days. Save you some serious coin, maybe you can keep the RC51, and like you said, if you bin a salvage title bike at the track...

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I do some track days myself, and everyone always tells me to get a 600(I won't do it). That being said you have only done a few right? Remember Rome wasn't built in a day. Keep riding your RC and learn to ride it better. If you get a 600 you will definitely miss the power, torque, not to mention you have to keep the 600's on the boil and shift quite a bit more.
My brother switched to an 08 R6 from an RSV4 about ten track days ago, and hasn't even come close the the 1000's lap times yet. Just my two cents.....
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How about looking for a salvage title bike for the track? That's what I would do if I was interested in getting into track days. Save you some serious coin, maybe you can keep the RC51, and like you said, if you bin a salvage title bike at the track...

I agree with Jondog9. Every wannabe and his brother rides a 600cc bike that they smash up or total out in the first 6 months. I think you'd be crazy to trade your RC for a CBR600. I'm pretty sure you'll regret it down the road. And if you're going to strip the 600, why bother buying one that's in good condition.

Keep the RC and buy a well used or salvage 600 for the track. Good luck!

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