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How to encourage kids to like fast machines :)

Some of us are parents now, or will be someday!
This morning I drove my daughter to Kindergarten in a Z3M Coupe and as usual our conversation turned to the car. I asked her if she preferred this, or our usual cars, or the Honda racecar. Thought she was going to say the Honda because it's noisy & she likes to hum to the sound of the engine & gearchanges, but she seems to like the leather interior & torque of the M coupe and so today it was the BMW as favourite.

Driving back, I thought about how I became interested in cars (& later on, bikes):

I was always into cars, as my dad was too. At the age of 2 I had a small 6v electric car and always liked going fast (Dad was a fast driver - still is, just not as safe now he's getting old... I said "No" when he wanted to ride the RC!)
He had taken me to his workshop at 12 years old during holidays and I was immersed in exotic cars in various states of restoration, engine work, etc. as I helped the staff with tools they needed, etc.
Later when I was 15, dad gave me a DT175 Yamaha to ride during my holidays on the beach and dirt tracks. It seized a couple of times, so I had to fix it too.
By the time I was 16 I was already really into cars, having begun building a VW based rail buggy in time to get my driver's licence....(Alas recession in UK killed my dad's business and I was given a rusty old BMW 2002 to learn to drive with instead) and so it went on from there...

I think it's important to know how to drive / ride well from a young age if possible...
My daughter already has an electric go-cart, but doesn't seem so keen to play with it any more. Am planning to build a tarmac cart track on our forested land by the time my son is 4 (He's not even 6 months old yet! ) so he can learn to ride Minimotos & drive carts and race his dad too, maybe... Daughter too, if she's into it.
They should be considerably quicker with a weight advantage, LOL.

Generally I see that today few kids are really interested in cars & bikes though. Far less than when I was a kid, as I remember it.

What's changed and what can we do about it?

Would be particularly interested to hear people's stories on how they became good at repairing mechanical things, or how their parents gently introduced them to a lifelong passion for fast toys.

Might be fun to share our experiences and perhaps get ideas of how to influence our kids.

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I was first put on two wheels when I was 8, my father rode motorcycles in the Philippines and at 69 still gets out on his 750 Yamaha Virago once in awhile. Sometimes I ride with him but he always complains that my bike is too loud.

My dad was very mechanical and had his own appliance repair company, which of course he tried to force me to do.

He bought my brother and I our first bike when I was 8 and within a week it was completely apart. As a matter of fact I took everything apart just to see how things worked.

Toasters, microwave ovens, bicycles, skateboards you name it...of I could take a wrench to it I did.

Like I said my dad wanted me to go into his trade so I reluctantly did and guess what I hated it.

It was not my calling and soon realised that motorcycles were, so I went back to school and became an mc technician.

I worked the industry for 18 years and loved it but carpal tunnel has made sure I needed a change of occupation. So now I'm no longer in the industry but I do have this passion for bikes that will never go away.

Looks like my daughter is starting to follow her old man's footsteps, we just got her a 1970 VW Beetle. She wants us to build a hot rodded California type bug, looks like we have some work to do.



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Some of us are parents now, or will be someday!
This morning I drove my daughter to Kindergarten in a Z3M Coupe
The real question is why were you driving your wife's car?
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I learned about speed thanks to having a brother in the mid sixties with a musle-car...1966 Charger 383 Magnum/Hurst 4spd. Then it was my turn with a 1969 Dart GTS 340/727 auto that I bought from my other bro in '74.Not fast by today's standards, but damn quick in the day: 14.1 e.t. and 106 mph in the trap. Two wheel I got an early start with my brothers scoot, but certainly wasn't a speedster: a '61 Puch Cheeta (I was the ripe old age of 8 in '65) that I used to ride around the yard. From there I graduated to a TC90 when I was 14, and then Kawi Mach III when I turned 16. Then I went for broke and bought a used Norton Commando Roadster the next summer; miraculously I survived both of those Dr Jeckle Mr Hyde bastards. None of the pics are of the actual bikes (I never thought back then that they were anything THAT special to take pictures of), but they are very much what they did look like:
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I never thought back then that they were anything THAT special to take pictures of
I have some regrets of that nature too...

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Just never thought at the time that something to remember them by would be relevant.
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I too am wondering the same thing since I have a two year old daughter, and will (hopefully) be having a son next time. I plan on buying her a minibike for her third birthday, but for some reason my wife doesn't think that is a good idea.

For me, I think it must be in my blood. I was never around anyone that was into cars or bikes. My father passed away before I remember, but apperently he was always into cars and bikes. He had a few Corvettes and Camaros. A story my mother always tells about him is that he had ordered a '69 Camaro SS, but was off at training for the army when it arrived. He asked a friend to pick it up and take a picture for him. The friend had thrown a tarp over it before he took the picture. So all my dad had to look at for two months was a picture of a tarp. Some people just don't get it.

Both my brother and I have been into mechanical stuff, and he recently got into motorcycles after having a bad wreck racing downhill mountain bikes. The only thing I can figure is that it just came with our genes.




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I think the same kids that would have been fascinated with cars, bikes and performance, which are a largely unaccessable world until you are older and have some money to work with, are nowdays sucked into the cheap immediate gratification of video games and computer technology at a young age and never leave them for "real" toys.
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I think the same kids that would have been fascinated with cars, bikes and performance, which are a largely unaccessable world until you are older and have some money to work with, are nowdays sucked into the cheap immediate gratification of video games and computer technology at a young age and never leave them for "real" toys.
I've got a nephew who grew up as one of the playstation generation & is seriously addicted to games. He plays late into the night & has difficulty getting out of bed (Even when away on a snowboarding holiday I couldn't drag him out of bed)! His parents constantly have to make sure he does what he's meant to do...Seems a high price to pay for a console that occupied the boy when the parents were too busy.
His dad owned a 356 Porsche (real one) until recently and has a 935 Turbo he's about to sell. Why?
Because the kids aren't interested and the cars just sit there unused. His son & daughter now both have bike licences, but are more interested in boring cars which sync with their iphones than driving. A waste if you ask me!
But I shouldn't judge. Being a parent is easier said than done... and then some!

Although I had the opportunity to play computer games as a kid, I didn't really like them that much. Always preferred the real thing as far as driving or riding went and better enjoyed doing stuff whether it be tinkering, playing, etc.

Getting back to my kids, there's no way we're having computer games ever in our home. Even our home digital antenna isn't connected up to the TV's. Not because we shun them, there's just no interest in wasting time watching mindless TV. If we watch something, it's something we choose.

BTW, some years ago I bought a cheap minibike from China. Got swayed by the miniature 996 looks. It was a pile of doo! After half a run around the block I wanted to throw it away, so I did.

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I'll play:
i grew up in former ussr, we had three car companies(in the entire country): zaporojets, moskvich, jiguli (lada). if you ever watched old top gear they do a drag race between these as a joke. Clarkson said he never thought cars this bad could be produced.

i grew up collecting Turbo gum wrappers which had foreign cars on them, had a full collection of over 1000 wrappers, and I would dream of these cars all day.

then my grandparents started buying me toy cars, i had a countach, mustang, and an old gto. played with these like they were gold!

taking stuff apart was also my specialty/hobby. i would take anything and everything apart, put it back together with less parts, and it would still work the same! amazing i know..

then i started getting into need for speed, grand turismo games. played a ton of them growing up, still play some gt5 once in a while.

around age 18, i got my license and was given a brand new fiat punto HGT which i crashed in two months, that was the end of me getting anything for free.. insurance payed up, and i got and old fiesta coupe, 1.4 rally. fun little car! broke every 2 weeks. since i could not afford a mechanic, i started wrenching on it, and got pretty decent at it. had to replace a few valves, head gasket, some electrical stuff. it was fun!
then came an old escort cosworth rs 2000. that thing was a beast, when it ran of course.. an ex race car, with "slight" modifications.. this means beat to shit, needs work. fun times, i wish i could go back..

i also wish i had more exposure to these things as a kid. we just couldn't afford anything in USSR.

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The real question is why were you driving your wife's car?
I had a Z3 M Coupe as well back in 1999. BMW only made 2500 of them worldwide. 325 bhp, that thing went like stink!!!
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