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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-17-2012, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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GP cans

I really dont like the big cans my RC has. I'm thinking about getting some GP cans but I'm somewhat hesitant because of the noise. I've found 2 different makers GP cans, Ladybird and BlackDragon. Has anyone tried them and if so, how loud are they? Also I see that ladybird offers "OPTIONAL BAFFLE AVAILABLE(25US) TO BRING THE LEVELS DOWN TO STOCK". I have yet to hear a "stock" RC so I'm wondering how loud that is?
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See jondog9 for the Blackdragons.

See Simonkobe for the Ladybirds.

Check on eBay too, there are some British made units that look nice too.

I'll save my opinions until you complete your research. There will be plenty others chiming in anytime.



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See jondog9 for the Blackdragons.

See Simonkobe for the Ladybirds.

Check on eBay too, there are some British made units that look nice too.

I'll save my opinions until you complete your research. There will be plenty others chiming in anytime.
Ladybirds are your only option really. You could go cheap the first go-round. But you'll pay for it later. Or just do it right the first time..
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Someone on speedzilla was able to try out the Dan moto mufflers, so far so good, but CF also isn't the best product for a twin IMO. You can try the Ti mufflers and
See how they work for you.


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As an owner of an Akrapovic full system with carbon mufflers, while carbon-fiber looks super nice when new, I strongly suggest going with titanium for long-term reliability.

Twins can be hard on C-F, and the C-F rebuild kits aren't cheap (at least speaking for Akrapovic).

The titanium mufflers are far more durable and don't weigh much different than carbon-fiber.
It may not look as sexy as carbon, but they're cheaper to maintain in the long run.
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I have yet to see a set of Ladybirds or any of SimonKobeJapan products, but if I've spent plenty of time drooling over all the great close-up pictures he has of his products. I've not seen better quality workmanship anywere like that! Certainly not Black Dragons.

But on their own merit, in my short ownership of them, there fine for the street and the price. I just uploaded some pictures of the bike with the BlackDragons in my gallery. I've been running this set for the last 6 months or so. They cost me $925 shipped. I got to choose from 3 different lengths, inlets, outlets, and midpipes.
My set is Carbon Fiber (not crazy about the loose weave), Ti inlet, ceramic coated midpipes, and apparently chrome outlet. Came with all the clamps and 2 hanger straps. They sound similiar to Yoshi's, just louder and deeper tone.
There are two things that do bug me about this system. First is that there is no tab welded to the midpipe to accomadate the rearset bracket. And there is only one spring holding the can to the midpipe. That makes for a shakey system, after awhile will rattle and wiggle around a lot.
All in all, I'd rate these Black Dragons about 7 out of 10. Yoshimura exhaust by comparison - my previous rs3's - build quality was just a little better.
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link to my gallery, a few more pictures of the BD's, and the last picture is my previous Yosh's.

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No contest. Having personally owned a set of the full length ovals (that is my '03 in the third link), and having seen the gp cans by both companies I can say that there is no comparison. One is absolutely top of the line, and one is a poser. Simon's cans are all titanium except for the rivets. Mark's are paper thin carbon and stainless steel.

You can contact Simon on here or speedzilla and he will probably knock a few bucks off what he has them up for on ebay, as they charge additional fees on top of paypal. Simon is a great guy and was awesome to deal with, and was able to get everything very fast even though mine was a custom order with the plain titanium mid pipes. After spending a little over a grand for the slip on system, then selling it like a dumbass, I have bought back my mids and will be buying some of his gp cans asap.

Ladybird through Simon Kobe:
http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/hon...sp-2-slip.html
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http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/hon...sters-new.html


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I'v got SP Engeneering MotoGP BigBore 270mm long.They r absolutely loud and sound is very deep!!!With bufflers on (for free) bike is quiet almost as standard.I dont know how is that but bufflers doing their job!!
To 3000rpm i lost power and above 3200 is STRONG kick and hell above 5000!!
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Thats our bikes and mine with MotoGP Big Bore
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/2395689/
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Thats our bikes and mine with MotoGP Big Bore
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/2395689/
The one on the left? Is yes, where can one get them?
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