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Oil filter study

Just wondering if somebody knows of a independent oil filter study for aftermarket and OEM. Tried do some searching but couldn't find anything. I run OEM but I know alot of ppl run K&N filters. Just wondering if there is any gain?
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stick with the OEM, what gain do you think your gonna get from a oil filter?

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http://www.motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html

Try here. More filter media is nice to have when filtering oil. Stock or OEM is not always best. I use the Purolator filter. It does have more media and no flow reduction issues.



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Ive been using the puralotor filter also for the last 6 yrs ! More volume
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Mad/Dan what Purolator do you guys use?

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I've never used a Purolator filter, I use Amsoil filters in my Wing, Duramax truck and will in the RC as well. Only other filter I'd consider is a Wix. Like Bob says "oil is the lifeblood of your engine, the filter is the kidney"

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after reading the article I have been using a Mobil 1 MB-108 the article says is a good one.

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My concern with most of the aftermarket filters are they cover all the RC51 years. The 00 runs a different filter for a reason. It has taken me some time to find where I read this. I found it on the Rouge site.

The blue 00 filter is slightly longer than the black 01 filter.
The main difference between the two filters is the pressure relief valve [bypass valve] inside the filter. The internal oil pressure is different on the 01/02 engine. The reason the black filter is shorter is to clear the headers on the 954 which uses the same filter as the 01/02/03 RC51. Honda decided to have one filter to cover several engines. The blue 00 filter has not been discontinued. The black filter will fit the 00 engine but the bypass valve can open at high rpm due to oil pressure and bypass the filter media.
Use the blue filter on the 00 engine and the black filter on 01 up.

what you are implying is that the '00 has higher oil pressure than the other model years (which seems odd because the oil pump is the same part number?). So it would be ok to run the blue filter on later year bikes (except that maybe in the event of filter failure with the blue filter the oil pressure might not be high enough to bypass)?

The 00 motor can see a higher oil flow to the filter at high rpm than the 01/02 motor. Honda changed the internal oil pressure relief valve inside the engine in 01. The purpose of the valve inside the oil filter is to open in case the filter becomes clogged allowing oil to bypass the filter media. All engines are rated at 63 psi at 5000 rpm at the filter. The black filter works on the 00 motor. At sustained high rpm's, such as on the race track the black filter may bypass some oil. This will not harm the engine. All filters with bypass valves will bypass some oil under certain conditions such as start up in very cold weather. The internal engine bypass valve can open under certain conditions completly bypassing the oil filer.
The net is if you have blue filters available run the blue filter on the 00 engine, black filters on 01-03.

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My concern with most of the aftermarket filters are they cover all the RC51 years. The 00 runs a different filter for a reason. It has taken me some time to find where I read this. I found it on the Rouge site.

The blue 00 filter is slightly longer than the black 01 filter.
The main difference between the two filters is the pressure relief valve [bypass valve] inside the filter. The internal oil pressure is different on the 01/02 engine. The reason the black filter is shorter is to clear the headers on the 954 which uses the same filter as the 01/02/03 RC51. Honda decided to have one filter to cover several engines. The blue 00 filter has not been discontinued. The black filter will fit the 00 engine but the bypass valve can open at high rpm due to oil pressure and bypass the filter media.
Use the blue filter on the 00 engine and the black filter on 01 up.

what you are implying is that the '00 has higher oil pressure than the other model years (which seems odd because the oil pump is the same part number?). So it would be ok to run the blue filter on later year bikes (except that maybe in the event of filter failure with the blue filter the oil pressure might not be high enough to bypass)?

The 00 motor can see a higher oil flow to the filter at high rpm than the 01/02 motor. Honda changed the internal oil pressure relief valve inside the engine in 01. The purpose of the valve inside the oil filter is to open in case the filter becomes clogged allowing oil to bypass the filter media. All engines are rated at 63 psi at 5000 rpm at the filter. The black filter works on the 00 motor. At sustained high rpm's, such as on the race track the black filter may bypass some oil. This will not harm the engine. All filters with bypass valves will bypass some oil under certain conditions such as start up in very cold weather. The internal engine bypass valve can open under certain conditions completly bypassing the oil filer.
The net is if you have blue filters available run the blue filter on the 00 engine, black filters on 01-03.
To add to this (Originally posted by Jondog9):

"I went to my dealership today. I asked the parts tech about the 2000's only oil filter. He told me this was right. And their records showed that I did get the blue one at first. That was last of stock and the black one now replaces it. He told me the part numbers.
For year 2000 it was 15410-MT7-505. the blue one.
Now it's superseded by 15410-MT7-003. the black one
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For what it's worth."
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Mad/Dan what Purolator do you guys use?
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