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Question Steering Dampner

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Can someone explain what exactly a steering dampner does ? I do not do any track riding, nor do I really push my RC as hard as most of you...so can someone break it down "Barney Style" for me ? Is it something I would use..or is it just a cool thing to have ?

thanks in advance...Kirk out !

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Basic description (not my words): "a damping device designed to inhibit an undesirable, uncontrolled movement or oscillation of a vehicle steering mechanism, a phenomenon known in motorcycling as 'wobble', or in extreme cases, a 'tank-slapper'. Modern motorbikes are unlikely to exhibit this behavior in daily use thanks in part to better dampers and due to their very stiff front ends and other general improvements in design and tire technology."


Think it's safe to say that if you don't track it, you probably won't need one. Others will probably agree. Only exception would be if you truly rode it (on the street) like you stole it, lol.

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Basic operation of a Steering Damper is a shock absorber for the handlebars..
If you leaned over in a curve, and hit a rock. The handle bars jerked, If you didn't have a Damper. the bars would be allowed to move freely (probably faster than you could react) The damper slow the action down(gives you a chance to react)
Also the Damper is a MUST have for higher speed riding.. The chances of Tank Slappers is greater..
Opinions of needing a Steering Damper vary..

All my bikes are equiped with a Scott Damper

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I like them and use them on all my bikes. I do track ride, but i also like them for those instances on the street when you hit a rut or bump at speed which may result in a tank slapper.....but others disagree. I will say that it is not necessary on the RC, as it is a bit of a bigger bike and is pretty damn stable.

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Even after raising the rear and dropping the front in combination with a suspension (& link) rework, although it made the steering a bit quicker, I haven't felt the need for a steering damper. I ride fairly fast when conditions allow (Habitually) and also do the odd track-day.
Aside from a very occasional wobble on the bars, there's no dramas. Fitting a damper can slow the steering, which isn't really a characteristic I'd want to encourage on mine!

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well cool...thanks guy's....I will place this on my list of things "Down the road"

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I rode my bike for the first 2 or three months without one. Then found a great deal on one and installed it. The nice thing about scotts is that you only need to buy the mounting bracket for all your bike's, then you can swap the Damper back and forth to what ever bike your riding.
I ride my bike like I stole it (within my ability of course) and could tell the difference with the damper. I like it, gives me a little security, and it plain ole works.

However, I completely understand Stig's point too. Seems like his bike is set up to the extreme, to turn fast, so I see how the damper could hinder that.

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with exception of my old CX500 every bike I've owned has had some sort of damper, be it oem or aftermarket. When I picked up my RC I immediately could feel the difference of not having a damper as it steered so much more easily at low speeds. After about 2 months of ownership I was riding around and gassed it hard coming out of a lean (bike is -1/+2, PCIIIr, Satos). As the front end got light I could feel the oscillations through the bars as it wanted to initiate a tank-slapper. That was enough convincing for me to get a damper. Not much later I sourced a nice used Scotts and have been happy since. I will feel much better about the front end once I finally get this piggy on track for the first time too.

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Miss mine................ Had a CBR600f2 track hoe that after a tank slapper hard enough to push the pistons back into the calipers (thank you for lots of run off). Put a Hyperpro on before the next race made the bike feel so much tighter. Still getting used to my RC (approx 2500KM) on it so far but with the torque of the Vtwin have felt the tremble in the bars coming out of a corner or two so I know it's a sooner than later purchase for me. Honestly though haven't even really set up the suspension for me yet either, guess since I decided I'm keeping it that'll have to get added to my list of preseason tasks.
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A damper is like insurance, you won't really know how much you need it until your bike is in pieces.

A properly set up steering damper (it's not dampener) with high and low speed damping circuits will not slow steering at all. Scotts recommends that you set the low to where you can barely feel it while stopped, and pretty much leave the high setting alone. I might post a video of mine saving me on the track at about 100 mph, but it is hard to tell since they are very transparent in how they correct problems. It just feels like the bike rights itself.



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