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Front Suspension "upgrade"

So the question I have is this, go with a re-worked suspension (by someone like Dan Kyle) or wait and try to actually snatch up some Ohlins. I know the latter will be harder to come by but will there be an added gain in performance?

Just looking over my timeline for parts and my project, and became curious about which route to go for the front end.

I know there will be varying opinions and experiences, but just kind of curious on everyone's thoughts.

As I will be focusing on performance rather than style...will/would there be a noticeable difference in the full Ohlins forks versus the re-work kit in regards performance?

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Thank you in advance gents.

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I would do the 30mm NIX Kit.

But I am a poser so went with Ohlins. lol.

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I did this with new fork springs.

http://www.hordpower.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=197



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LDH's words ring on my ears still.

Ohlins is the best, it is a greater margin of error and saftey with less drama making it all much safer allowing the rider to focus on his lines and technique.
Not word for word but similar.

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I would do the 30mm NIX Kit.

But I am a poser so went with Ohlins. lol.
Guess I need LDH to chime in. What are the differences in doing this kit vice the forks you snatched up?

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Guess I need LDH to chime in. What are the differences in doing this kit vice the forks you snatched up?
Phone Dan kyle..
ask for Mike.

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Just rent Duckie's, he never rides his own bike anyways.....

But seriously, Hord reworked mine and they work 1000Xs better.



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Just rent Duckie's, he never rides his own bike anyways.....

But seriously, Hord reworked mine and they work 1000Xs better.
^^Bwahahahahaha...

Thanks MB. I know re-worked will be better than stock, but seeing if there was a definitive difference in re-worked versus complete swap.

Like Duck said, probably give LDH a call.

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I spoke with Dan and Mike in detail about ohlins suspension. And they have posted about it before in older threads on the net.

The 30 mm NIX kit is the latest suspension technology from ohlins. And the newest stuff is out due to improvements. So yes, this cartridge kit is better than the older Ohlins FG43 fork variants for the RC51, which use different and smaller valving.

However, Kyle USA basically makes the 30 mm NIX kit fit the OEM RC51 forks as it is not a drop in for the bike. Among other things, the forks have to be lengthened and one sees the large adapters on top. If you don't mind the looks and want to get the best, get the kit. Unfortunately, aesthetics is important to me, and the look of the kit bothers me. That's a personal thing though. Others aren't bothered by it.

And while the kit is an improvement, it is not huge. IME, many riders wouldn't feel an appreciable difference over the older ohlins forks for the RC51 (well set up), and 99% of riders + wouldn't be able to take advantage of it. And we're talking track here, as on the street one won't be riding to the extreme where those differences become significantly discernible. Also, there are upgrades for the FG43 ohlins forks for the RC51 that make it better, closing in on the 30 mm kit capability. The 30 mm kit has a notable track advantage of very easy spring changes, taking around 8 minutes I've been told.

Both options are great. Each have some minor differences from the other to consider.

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Rock give these guys a call...http://www.gpsuspension.com/products...sportcartr.php

I have a very very fast friend on a GSXR his race bike is dailed in I mean I can't tell the difference between his set up and my other buddies full Ohlins suspended '08 CBR1000 on the track or the canyons. Maybe I'm not that good but in all honesty I'm no slouch either and if you want I'm sure I have a link to where you can get the 25mm cartridge kit for under $1200 if still available and get someone to install.
Or get the full meal deal through them, hell my re-valved forks by GP made me smile every time I tipped it in...

Could you tell the difference? Do you mind saving a few bucks I know I don't.




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