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ohlins forks - school me

so poking around a few for sale threads i'm wondering what the differences are between the ohlins forks that are available for the rc? what type of prices do they typically come up at, seems to be anywhere from $1500-$2000? plus, in looking at fork upgrade options there are a number of valving options available from different shops incl the 20mm ohlins from kyle. they all seem to be about that $700 mark.

so i'm thinking about bang for the buck, is it work spending double or more to get the ohlins tubes or does the valving upgrade provide significant improvement that most riders would be happy with?

has anyone here done both, ie valve upgrade first and then moved on to ohlins who can give some feedback on the two?

i'm an agressive street rider and occasional track day rider. learnme here fellas!

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Ever check the forum? Hint, the suspension subforum. A good place to start.

Comparing options qualitatively is fraught with personal biases and judgements. I try to be objective and I've said before that most people don't outride the stock front suspension. But I have full ohlins forks upgraded. Not because I needed them though.

If you're into value, I'd heartily recommend the basic upgrade to the stock forks. As you noted, Dan Kyle has some great options in each category, from basic to full on treatments. And there are other's.

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Ouch, tough crowd today...lol

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I'll be able to give you a comparison pretty soon. Just got my fork legs back from Kyle with Ohlins 20mm valving, new springs, Ohlins fork oil, and seals and bushings. That cost $916 with tax and shipping. They were bone stock before that.
I'll be getting my Ohlins shock back in a few days too, they serviced it and installed a proper spring to accommodate my Mori link. That will cost about $350 (if I remember right).

I'm looking forward to a whole new feel, and better compliancy.

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I'll be able to give you a comparison pretty soon. Just got my fork legs back from Kyle with Ohlins 20mm valving, new springs, Ohlins fork oil, and seals and bushings. That cost $916 with tax and shipping. They were bone stock before that.
I'll be getting my Ohlins shock back in a few days too, they serviced it and installed a proper spring to accommodate my Mori link. That will cost about $350 (if I remember right).

I'm looking forward to a whole new feel, and better compliancy.
Exciting times. Looking forward to your report.
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thanks and great write-up kwtoxman - i do recall seeing your thread before but no going all the way through it. it answers a lot of my questions but not all.

specifically the performance/dollar aspect wrt to valve upgrades or ohlins forks. essentially it's about a $1250 difference between a set of used ohlins forks (that may need servicing and hence more $$$) and a valving upgrade which results in a fresh fork. i'd like to get feedback on the benefit of going the extra mile and $$$ to do ohlins forks vs the valving upgrade. i realize that question is a bit subjective, but any feedback would be appreciated.

ps - changed the thread title to better reflect what i'm after.

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I'll be able to give you a comparison pretty soon....

awesome! just the type of input i was looking for in creating this thread.
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thanks and great write-up kwtoxman - i do recall seeing your thread before but no going all the way through it. it answers a lot of my questions but not all.

specifically the performance/dollar aspect wrt to valve upgrades or ohlins forks. essentially it's about a $1250 difference between a set of used ohlins forks (that may need servicing and hence more $$$) and a valving upgrade which results in a fresh fork. i'd like to get feedback on the benefit of going the extra mile and $$$ to do ohlins forks vs the valving upgrade. i realize that question is a bit subjective, but any feedback would be appreciated.
IMO, asking for personal experience doesn't help much as people are different; in their biases and judgements as well as riding ability. Very few people here track, and much less race or have raced.

Then consider the weight of evidence overall. FWIW, most amateur road racers that I've been around used race-tech for their value in a basic fork upgrade, with great results. Race-tech has a huge amount of race winners and local/regional/national champions under their belt.

As mentioned in the linked thread, the basic upgrade is all that most people need to get the sought-after ride improvement. Only when winning races and pushing the limits does that extra 5 or so percent of performance begin to matter in performance. Though the NIX upgrade have suspension work advantages as mentioned.

Then there is the difference in money between people. Some have lots, others not. It can make a big difference in justifying ohlins forks prices, or the opposite.

The reason most everyone wants the Ohlins forks here is not that they literally need it, it's that they want it. It's always nice to have the best.

All you need to do is decide where you sit in those considerations.

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thanks man, i get what you're saying and expected that. i just wanted to ask because i'm an "every bit of info helps" type of guy.

plus, i've never had a bad time talking about rc upgrades.
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