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New Matris shock for my SP2

My new shock arrived today...
The Matris "R" spec shock is simply a work of art. The engineering is superb. Tight tolerances. Extremely low friction coatings. Every adjustment you could ask for....
The ultimate though has to be the customisation for the individual. You order the shock....they spring and valve each unit to your requirements.
They aren't cheap, but given that I will keep my bike for a long, long time....I'm sure I'll get my money's worth.
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Looks very nice. Can i ask how much? was it shipped from Italy or was it available to you locally? I looked into buying it for the SP1 as my next upgrade its about 1200 euros....
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They are around that price. Mine came direct from Italy. There may well be a dealer close by for you. I was first introduced to the product at WSBK and developed an interest since then. The Italians are wonderful artisans.....no concept of time...but wonderful artisans.
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They are around that price. Mine came direct from Italy. There may well be a dealer close by for you. I was first introduced to the product at WSBK and developed an interest since then. The Italians are wonderful artisans.....no concept of time...but wonderful artisans.
Good stuff man. Please do update how easy/difficult the install was. About the italians not so sure about the artisan bit bro i have a fucking ducati and it's a piece of shit compared to Japanese bikes that i have owned in the past fifteen years. Quality if poor and also assembly is poor. But i have read good reviews about Martis...time will tell.
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I hear you. The Ducatis leave you shaking your head. You can look at their bikes and think..."a couple of bolts and the shock will come straight out". 20 mins and several bolts later you are still trying to get the shock out.
This thing will bolt straight in. You just have to hold it in your hand to know you have something special.
I have long said that Honda made the best Ducati ever.....and nothing has changed. Keep your 1299 Panagale....I'll take the SP2 thanks.

If you are keen to pull the trigger on one of these let me know. I should be able to put you in touch with the guys directly and save you some coin.
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i'm just curious about the "tight tolerances" comment.


which tolerances?
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i'm just curious about the "tight tolerances" comment.


which tolerances?
The critical ones....
Piston to body
Seal head to shaft
Bearings etc..
When you are dealing with any telescopic device, performance will be improved by elimating / reducing lateral movement.
Binding or friction dramatically hampers suspension capability.
Springs and damping are completely tunable / replacable. The friction component will come down to the base engineering of the item.
By starting from a better base, ultimately the potential is improved.
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i have the steering damper from this company for my Rc51 .. its pretty damn nice! and expensive. so im guess the same goes for there rear shock??

Full Akrapovic Ti exhaust , PC5 , Corbin seat , T1 airbox , Russell steel braided lines , Matris steering damper , Brembo RCS 19, Pair mod , Flapper mod , Soft rev mod, 15/41 gears, EBC xc front rotors, Tuned by Dyno Solutions.
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The critical ones....
Piston to body
Seal head to shaft
Bearings etc..
When you are dealing with any telescopic device, performance will be improved by elimating / reducing lateral movement.
Binding or friction dramatically hampers suspension capability.
Springs and damping are completely tunable / replacable. The friction component will come down to the base engineering of the item.
By starting from a better base, ultimately the potential is improved.


so what are the tolerances? did you get them from the manufacturer? how do they compare with others?
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I really don't care for what a manufacturer tells you. They tend to write what looks good on brochures.
The easiest comparison is a side load test. This is done to measure both static and dynamic friction. We do these regularly
A simple test that you could replicate would be to clamp the body of a springless shock and move the shaft from side to side. I am guessing however that you are not so much interested in trying this yourself.
As I mentioned before... You just have to be in front of one of these things to admire the workmanship. Then again perhaps I look at things differently to yourself. Possibly a little more extreme.
Unwanted movement is eliminated from our bikes at every avenue. We machine our own bearing pins to eliminate play in linkages, swingarms etc.
We machine bush lands on fork tubes to reduce side loads on the front end. Next time you ride your bike, take note....The small unseen bumps that are in the road surface don't seem to bother you that much when you are upright. Banked over however the bumps appear much worse. Imagine yourself at 160 mph having to deal with this. Its pretty damn important.
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