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I?ve been reading a lot about how suspension is amongst the best upgrades to a bike. I have no doubt that a $2000 HO204 / fork rebuild / linear link is a solid upgrade to a bike but is it worth the $2000? I?ve also read that the RC51 had some of the best OEM suspension offered at the time but obviously it won?t be set up for each individual rider. My question is what is the difference between stock OEM suspension properly set up for the track and Íhlins properly set up? I?m 210 lbs without riding gear on.

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Set your suspension up ballpark right, or pay a guy trackside to do it for you. Go ride and enjoy the ride
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way..." Be happy with what you already got, and that by the way, is a lot. Strive for more, sure. But step back and look what you already have.

Then as you progress in your track day/riding days, you look at your wallet and evaluate what else you could do with the $2k disposable income your have.


It took me 35+ years to get to my SP. My first bike was a

and I loved it to bits... With hindsight, everything "sucked big time" compared to XYZ...



In isolation, no it is not worth 2k. but seen in the bigger picture of your hobby......


PS: my SP2 came with Ohlins already on it... I subsequently had K-Tech SSK put in up front. and no, I donot do track days...


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For the front end, better quality valves and shim stack, plus spring rates for ones weight goes a long way.
No need to spend $2000 on replacement cartridges if you don't need it.
For the rear, a better quality adjustable/rebuildable shock also with correct spring rate for rider weight will really help.

As an example: The suspension on my '08 Triumph Tiger 1050 was absolute garbage.
Highly under-sprung and under-damped for my weight (or pretty much anyone).
Felt more like those playground rides mounted on coil springs. Made one's ass pucker when anywhere close to pushing it.

I saved up and bought a Race Tech Gold Valve kit and springs for the front, and a Nitron R3+HYD shock for the rear.
Still fine tuning the front for my riding style, but the shock is spot on.
Night and day difference even as is, and that's no exaggeration. Now I ride with confidence (and having fun!) and bike is handling the way it was meant to.

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Yes of course it's worth it. Of all the things to do to the 51 suspension is probably in the top spot, if not it's in the top 2 or 3

Just because the bike isn't overly expensive doesn't mean that parts aren't worth installing.


The difference you get in enjoyment from having a well suspended motorcycle is worth 2000 bucks on nearly anything
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I'd go for a new shock and linear link in the rear first..if you have 2g to spend then a kit in the front...kill 2 birds with 2000 stones...lol...rear shock and link sucks balls.
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dig through the search engine, you'll find stuff done cheaper, some of which you can do. It won't be Ohlins or Matrics or Wilbers or etc. but it will be better than what you have...

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I?ve been reading a lot about how suspension is amongst the best upgrades to a bike.
I think you already know that money spent on suspension is the best BuckBang, or you wouldn't have asked the general question. But, in addition to the proper upgrading of the OEM suspension, you should also consider the AGE of that suspension. Even if it was "okay" from the factory (which it is not), it still would need a rebuild here in 2017, right? So think of it as breaking even.

I recently spent $800 for the total fork rebuild/respring/valving, and $850 for the lovely Ohlins shock, all provided by Kyle/LDH specifically for my 210 lb nekked weight. I also bought the link, because I'm never two-up on this bike. That's less than $2K, and the suspension is simply a totally different animal now. Compliant, confidence inspiring, almost cushy compared to old OEM workings.

Yes, Wibbly is right. Suspension is the best mod on our older bikes. Sure, a new Yammie R1 is all the tits and needs nothing, but our old pigs can use an upgrade to the 21st century.

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And oh yeah,

loose 20 pounds....
(U2 Trace.....)

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I?ve been reading a lot about how suspension is amongst the best upgrades to a bike.
I think you already know that money spent on suspension is the best BuckBang, or you wouldn't have asked the general question. But, in addition to the proper upgrading of the OEM suspension, you should also consider the AGE of that suspension. Even if it was "okay" from the factory (which it is not), it still would need a rebuild here in 2017, right? So think of it as breaking even. >[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.rc51forums.com//forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

I recently spent $800 for the total fork rebuild/respring/valving, and $850 for the lovely Ohlins shock, all provided by Kyle/LDH specifically for my 210 lb nekked weight. I also bought the link, because I'm never two-up on this bike. That's less than $2K, and the suspension is simply a totally different animal now. Compliant, confidence inspiring, almost cushy compared to old OEM workings.

Yes, Wibbly is right. Suspension is the best mod on our older bikes. Sure, a new Yammie R1 is all the tits and needs nothing, but our old pigs can use an upgrade to the 21st century.
You?ve about sold me with this post alone. Valid points. Will be a project down the road and not as immidiate as originally thought.
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