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I'm a newbie here and have only just purchased my first RC51. It's taken 13 years and I absolutely love it!!!

Just one query for other riders out there. My first experience performing a low speed turn was pretty hair-raising. I found that the bike didn't want to go the way I wanted and I ended up going wide.

I know that RC's have a reputation in this regard, but I just wanted some tips.

My background is that this is my first bike following a big accident 7 years ago. I'm used to steering dampers previously (this bike doesn't have one). Also I noticed that the headstock bearing retainer wasn't tight when I purchased the bike.

I'm not sure if I just experiencing this due to my fears, my riding style or anything more sinister.

Thanks guys.
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How much air is in the front tire? Under inflation will cause sluggish steering. If the steering stem nut was loose, you may also want to check the steering bearings.



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Ever heard of counter steering?
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Ever heard of counter steering?
Now that goes back you real basic.....



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Probably needs a new set of hoops , do yourself a favor and install a 190/55 on the rear when you get a new set as well

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Now that goes back you real basic.....
Yup, if the problem isn't your suggestion, that is one of my next guesses. There are a ton of self taught out there,.... and after a big accident or time off of a bike, some can over-analyze their movements on the bike. I knew a guy who crashed that way trying to turn a bike through a corner.

There is also the basic fact that you go where you look. If you look at the edge of a corner you will drive to it and run wide. If you look through and ahead of a corner then you will be fine.

As to the OP, the RC51 has no issues or reputation with low speed handling. The bike is actually known to turn and handle quite well in general. Some have raised the rear or lowered the front to make it handle/turn quicker. That can be better on the track, but is not necessary on the street.

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Lets try this.....how about some pictures of the bike??



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Welcome.

Much is covered above, but just curious to know - how worn is the front tire?
Seeing as you've just bought it and it may have been stood for some time prior - Did you check pressures before riding?

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Thanks for all the responses (even the ones reminding me to counter-steer).

She won't turn on sharp bends/roundabouts (over-cooked a couple today).

I'm going to double-check the tyre pressures. They feel good, but I've not had a digital reading on them yet (only had the bike 2 days and I've barely been past a petrol station yet). Boarderline front, but still legal and plenty of tread on the back. No flat spots.

I've got to admit, I was pretty concerned to find the nut loose on the headstock and I'm hoping it's not associated. It could just be a suspension setup issue I'm encountering. The other possibility is that I'm just struggling to ride a big bike again...
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A quite worn front tire can make the front seem slow compared to the feel with new rubber, but it's not so bad that it would make the bike not turn. There would have to be something seriously wrong for a bike to do that - if the rider input was normal.

When you brake hard (With the front brake) do the headstock bearings make a noise? They shouldn't be too tight, but not too loose either. Just enough to have no play in the bearings, but if they're worn - then they can be notchy.

Anyways, if tyres are properly inflated then it's probably rider error. Perhaps ask someone who is used to riding big bikes to take it for a ride and check to let you know what they find it feels like?

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