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Scotts SP2 - quick damper mount question

So I have installed my Scotts damper on my SP2 - standard mounting - nothing outside of the instructions done. Having paced the pin holder between the rubber grommets (between the tank and stay) as instructed - this, by default, raises the tank the distance represented by the thickness of the pin holder. The end result is a little wobble in the tank as it is now off it's resting points on the frame and airbox by that distance as well.

Am I missing something? Is this one of those "is what it is" things, or is there a solution to be had to this? I am not sure I am willing to live with it long term. Wasn't an issue on my SP1 as the pin holder mounts on top of the tank in that installation so I sure didn't see it coming.
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I remember a goofy dogbone washer that came with my kit and I also remember wiping my ass with the instructions and arranging the pin holder so that my tank seated and the pin sat where it should ...hope this helps.
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I played with the position of the bracket - no bueno - for me anyway. Ultimately - it would need to sit on TOP of the tank, but this puts the boss where the pin sits in conflict with the arm itself. Thinking maybe going to a SP1 pin mount would solve the problem as that one sits much lower - the pin is recessed into the bracket and not sticking out above it. The dogbone washer is only necessary if your cross bar on the fairing stay is welded on lower than usual. Raises the stay a bit to clear the damper. Mine clears just fine so no washer necessary.

If you get the chance - a pic of the way yours is mounted would be worth a thousand words!
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I played with the position of the bracket - no bueno -

If you get the chance - a pic of the way yours is mounted would be worth a thousand words!
I don't think a pic of mine will help I swapped it out years ago ... sorry...
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Flip the bracket upside down, and then put it on top of the tank grommets. You'll have to push the pin in so the only part above the plastic spacer is the part with the milled flat spots. (mine looks a little different for obvious reasons)






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Here's how I have mine set up.
The lower rubber grommets are fitted on the fairing stay with a shouldered washer. The shoulder goes all the way down to the top clamp.
Then the gas tank grommets with no washer, then the wishbone bracket and bolts.
As you can see, my grommets are a little tattered, but this setup works pretty good for me.
And if it makes any difference, this is a SP1. Shouldn't matter though...




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^^ the bracket on the SP1 kits was about double the thickness where the tank bolts go through.




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^^ the bracket on the SP1 kits was about double the thickness where the tank bolts go through.
That shouldn't matter right, since the bracket is on top of everything?

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You guys rock! Thanks for the idea on flipping the bracket over. Hadn't even occurred to me - I will give that a shot.
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Always learning something new. My SP2 came with all this when I bought it. I checked my bike after reading the thread and sure enough the tank is a little off the frame with a bit of play. Not really noticeable though and hasn't been a problem.

Still, I thought I'd give the flipped tank bracket suggestion a try. A PITA as my blue loctite essentially glued the shoulder washers to the bolts. But once I got tank mount apart and rejigged things, it seems the flipped tank bracket works and works well. The tank is now against the frame spars nicely and the pin in the tank bracket has no problem working with the link arm on the stabilizer. I did adjust the plastic spacer on the pin so that not much of the pin comes through the bottom, without interfering with the link arm up top either. Too much of the pin out the bottom and on my setup it may hit the fairing stay mount.

The fairing stay cross brace appears to be a little closer to the damper than I remember. But my front fairing is off and until I remount it I won't be able to see if that spacing has changed in reality. I'm thinking it hasn't once everything is back on.

Thx for all the helpful posts and the thread.

Just want to also mention an obvious tip that we often dismiss....never force a bolt in. Those tank bolts are a PITA to put in and easy to cross thread. One of mine was giving some resistance, and I was tempted to let er rip. But thankfully I backed off and pulled things apart. I used a die to run through the bolt threads and it turned out they were a little rough. Once I cleaned up the bolt threads the bolt went in much smoother and I didn't even need to tap the bolt holes in the frame to clean them up.

And Scott's is correct to blue loctite everything on this install.

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