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Anyone know if 2007 cbr 600 dymag CF wheels, f/r rotors and sprocket will fit a RC 51? Nice set avaiable-worth buying if it can be made to work cheaply/easily.....

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The 600's rear wheel is 6" wide?

The front fits like a glove


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They are dymags...I await a response..should be a 6x17.....tks for the info..looks like front rotors are 310mm not 320 like rc51.
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Even if they are, the RC's 320s fits like a glove to the rotors mounting holes...nothing to worry about in the front wheel.

Just make sure it has a 6"x17" rear so that you can fit the 190/55 tire.


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GOT IT...TKS for the info...was hoping the galfer rotors were 320 as I hate to buy them and not use them....700 miles on the dymags-comes with sprocket...any bearing changes/spacers needed?
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With 700miles on them I doubt they need new bearings. But you should check that with the seller to have a possitive answer on that. He cannot lie otherwise those wheels will be "item is not as described" on arrival.

However I am not sure if the RC's wheel axles will fit. That is something you should expect to happen.

And of course you'll need RC spacers which are very easy to have them made on lathe.
If you have to swap bearings eventualy due to misfitting inner diameter, consider the option to use 2mm larger I.D. bearings so that you can make captive spacers instead of standard ones.


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Broke down and bought NEW BST's with ceramic bearings for the RC-couldn't find anyone that knew or sold carriers and RC sized axle bearings to convert wheels to fit...motomummy has a great price now..2990....usually I see 3300-4000 a set.
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I've heard the ceramic bearings are brittle. Are they appropriate for street use?

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1st I have heard of it...they do seem to roll with minimal effort though..anyone care to chime in?
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This is a common question nowadays when talking about machine tool spindles. Although most manufacturers will tell you the ceramic ball has far more advantages than the steel ball. In most cases that may be true, but is it necessary for your application? Quantum Precision is not looking to sell you the most expensive bearing for your application. We’ll work with you to provide a bearing that will perform under your conditions, and at a reasonable cost.
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How Much Longer Life Can Be Expected From Hybrid Bearings Vs. Steel?
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We’re so glad you asked!! You can use the contact us inquiry page on this web-site
What Are The Draw-Backs Or Limitations To Using Ceramic Balls?
We’d like to say there are none, but Ceramic balls cannot be used for every application. A stiffer ball can increase contact stresses if raceway curvatures are not adjusted. For extremely high load applications, silicon nitride balls may not be suitable since they may accelerate steel raceway fatigue. Also, silicon nitride balls are more costly than steel balls and while they continue to be more and more affordable, they may not be economical for every application despite longer life and enhanced performance.
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