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Sato Cans, Help Identifying these diff's ???

Hey guys...
I am doing some work for my good friend Nobody.
He wants his first gen Sato Ti cans shortened and repacked with new rivets.

I had got the first one pulled apart and It was fine, cut away the glass fiber and stainless mesh from the baffle and found this type of baffle with conical ends and a narrow diameter baffle design.

Pulled the other can apart, I knew it had been apart before as the rivets were loosely installed and I could see marker lines for alignment for reassembly.
Well, I found NO packing in it ???? LOL...hmmmmm First thought that came to mind was.... ..well.. I better not say.

I found a large diameter baffle in this can, so WTF ???
two diff style cans ??? obviously not a matched set.

Can anyone help identify these ??? and what the diff's are in flow or affects of the change of design ???

Really appreciate any help and info on this.
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Figured it out. Bigger baffle was right side due to the fact of most volume goes through the right side. Smaller baffle was left side....left side almost never needs repack, right side needs repack very often. the diff's in baffles was because Sato found this setup made the most horsepower. Very interesting.

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what are you using to repack them? do you know when to repack them based on sound alone? or would they start showing signs of heat on the shell?
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Interesting bit of info Duckhunter, thanks for posting the findings...

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Exhausting Explanation.

Thanks for posting this, Duckhunter.
Now I'm older & wiser. Good to know, 'though.
I think I'll keep my stock exhaust & suspension. I like a clean, original look. Personally, I'd like the suspension to be stiffer than what I can get out of the stock settings, but it's never let me down on the street, including all the shenanigans I've gotten myself into over the years.
Thanks for sharing.
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what are you using to repack them? do you know when to repack them based on sound alone? or would they start showing signs of heat on the shell?
I am going to be using stuff called "Silent Sport packing"

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/...tm?Click=35177

it is like a stainless steel wooly/mesh type stuff. You can get repack kits that are just fiberglass pre formed to just slip into the can...but after researching it....I am going this route. This stuff lasts longer and sounds better.
It is funny how many people do not bother with repacks.
Very good question on when to repack.....The cans will be a lot louder then they should be. Nobodys Carbon Banzai mount Sato cans were VERY plugged up with carbon....never seen so much powder come out of a can.

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Thanks for posting this, Duckhunter.
Now I'm older & wiser. Good to know, 'though.
I think I'll keep my stock exhaust & suspension. I like a clean, original look. Personally, I'd like the suspension to be stiffer than what I can get out of the stock settings, but it's never let me down on the street, including all the shenanigans I've gotten myself into over the years.
Thanks for sharing.
The sides of your tyres look pretty clean and original too! bahahaha.

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Thanks for posting this, Duckhunter.
Now I'm older & wiser. Good to know, 'though.
I think I'll keep my stock exhaust & suspension. I like a clean, original look. Personally, I'd like the suspension to be stiffer than what I can get out of the stock settings, but it's never let me down on the street, including all the shenanigans I've gotten myself into over the years.
Thanks for sharing.
You would like it to be stiffer ???? I think it is plenty stiff already, that's the real problem with it...( the OEM shock ) as far as I am concerned.
And your welcome guys....I learned some thing new working on these cans for nobody.

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Wanna do another set?

Lets see if I get the set that just went up for sale. They're in Canada, so I was thinking...

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I am going to be using stuff called "Silent Sport packing"

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/...tm?Click=35177

it is like a stainless steel wooly/mesh type stuff. You can get repack kits that are just fiberglass pre formed to just slip into the can...but after researching it....I am going this route. This stuff lasts longer and sounds better.
It is funny how many people do not bother with repacks.
Very good question on when to repack.....The cans will be a lot louder then they should be. Nobodys Carbon Banzai mount Sato cans were VERY plugged up with carbon....never seen so much powder come out of a can.
The Silent sport Stuff can be a bit messy for the inexperienced, I still have 2 bags of the small ones for another repack probably by the end of year unless I find some sleeves. I chose not to go with the steel wool core when I did mine, this was about 2Kmiles ago and they still sound the same as just packed, also they didn't come with the steel wool packing once I popped them open. It seams you get quicker on learning how to pack after the first one.

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