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Does anyone know what RC51 stands for. Or for that matter, what does the designation RVT mean? Racing V Twin? Road V Twin?
 

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The RC51 moniker is a marketing gimmick. The true designation from Honda is SC45 (it is in your vin and every other RC51 vin). There is a breakdown somewhere. Basically one letter is the engine size and the other is for engine configuration or wether the bike was a race bike of street bike. Something like that. You can just google "Honda motorcycle designation or names" and you'll probably find it.

Rvt is probably racing v twin. Rvf has always been used for the v-fours so why not?
 

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The RC51 moniker is a marketing gimmick. The true designation from Honda is SC45 (it is in your vin and every other RC51 vin). There is a breakdown somewhere. Basically one letter is the engine size and the other is for engine configuration or wether the bike was a race bike of street bike. Something like that. You can just google "Honda motorcycle designation or names" and you'll probably find it.

Rvt is probably racing v twin. Rvf has always been used for the v-fours so why not?
Except in Europe it's VTR not RVT.
I think it's whatever Honda decided when they spun the model name wheel.

I also think RC51 rolls off the tongue better. Like SR71.
A purposeful military-esque name.
Not like Fireblade, which sounds like something you'd name My Little Pony.
 

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Took your advice and spent a little time on Google. Turns out I found this reference in an article from 2006. "Jon Row, press manager at American Honda says the RC 51 V-twin sportbike was named by a designer who just liked the sound of it."

It's funny what you find, at first glance that seems to be the end of it, just random they liked the sound of it. But not so fast, digging a little deeper and going back to the web I found this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC_series which seems a lot more credible. All of these go back to HRC and are the family of works racing machines. While the designations were a linear model development series before year 2000, along comes the RC-250M thru RC-51 and they don't fit the pattern. The RC250 and RC1000s look like displacement references. Also, the Wilkipedia list doesn't include the RC-30 or RC-45 which would not fit any obvious pattern. The RC-51 does follow up on the series beginning with the RC-30 maybe, but other than that it my have really just sounded good.
 

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The VFR750R was the 30th production Honda motorcycle model with an engine displacement between 650 cc and 899 cc and became the RC-30. So maybe the RC-51 is the 51st model over 900cc or over 650 cc. With rumors of an RC-60 there sure looks to be some meaning to the numbers.
 

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Not that I'll ever have the money on my salary but that would be absolutely AWESOME! The notion of an RC a decade later with all that updated chassis design and suspension would bring to the table is extraordinary. Maybe in 2025 I'll be able to pick up a used model with 9000 on the clocks and wish I could afford the new RC68.
 

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I wouldn't hold your breath gentlemen. The rumors about another v-twin sportbike from Honda have been around for almost a decade. The problem is that there is no class for it to compete in that the CBR doesn't already. CBR's are cheaper to produce and will always sell better in numbers.

Don't even think that it might be a limited edition bike either. When was the last time Honda released a limited run bike? The RC45 or NR750 come to mind.
 

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This would be a return of the VFR1000R. I came within a breath of buying a VFR1000R back in the 80s. Still regret not pulling the trigger on it. It was an 84 model still in the dealers showroom late in 85. I could have gotten a deal too. :(

 

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The VFR750R was the 30th production Honda motorcycle model with an engine displacement between 650 cc and 899 cc and became the RC-30. So maybe the RC-51 is the 51st model over 900cc or over 650 cc. With rumors of an RC-60 there sure looks to be some meaning to the numbers.
This seems to be the most credible reason. I've heard that the Honda Hawk's internal designation was RC31, and I've also seen early 90's VFR750's (the Interceptor) referred to as RC36.

I could probably verify this with some digging....

EDIT: The plot thickens.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NT650

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VFR750F

The Honda Hawk GT NT650 motorcycle was designated as model RC31 and was designed by Toshiaki Kishi, and was the second Honda with "Pro-Arm" suspension bike after the RC30 VFR750R. The Japanese model was named the Bros. The RC model designation is for bikes up to 750cc, though the Honda Pacific Coast (PC800) has an engine of more than 750 cc and a model designation of RC34.
 

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This seems to be the most credible reason. I've heard that the Honda Hawk's internal designation was RC31, and I've also seen early 90's VFR750's (the Interceptor) referred to as RC36.

I could probably verify this with some digging....

EDIT: The plot thickens.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NT650

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VFR750F
fwiw, The VFR800 is an RC46. It's in every VIN of every vfr800. 5th and 6th generation. Can someone explain that to me? Seems like the more I dig into this, the more confusing it becomes... :confused:
 

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fwiw, The VFR800 is an RC46. It's in every VIN of every vfr800. 5th and 6th generation. Can someone explain that to me? Seems like the more I dig into this, the more confusing it becomes... :confused:
I just did a google search running sequentially through the "RC" nomenclature from 40-50. There is a bike that comes up in reference to each. Deauville (NT), Interceptor (VFR), Shadow (VT), RC45....everything. It doesn't seem like RC represents anything special to Honda internally....but we know better.

It just seems to be their internal project coding, much like E30/36/46/90/92 for the BMW 3-series and E34/39/60 for the 5-series.
 

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In reference to limited production bikes of recent years, anyone remember the Rune? There's no way anyone didn't know that it wasn't going to sell.


And as far as the naming goes, it's just honda and HRC's naming scheme. Race bikes don't need to go to the marketing department for a name makeover before people will buy them. Heck, if you think about it, nearly no bikes have names now, but back on the 90's, it was standard operating procedure for most companies. To us we had bikes like the hurricane, blackbird, katana, hayabusa, marauder, super hawk, and so on. The engineers just had cbr1100xx, gsx600f, vtr1000 and so on. although from the looks of things, the engineers were right. Cbr600rr doesn't have any ring to it.....or any comfort or torque for that matter, but I digress. New bikes sell just as well without some new stupid name that means shark in a language that we don't speak.
 

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Allow me to muddy the waters a tad more. On the parts lookup, the RC51 is listed as VTR1000SP...not RVT or RC
Honda has so many different model designations for different listings it's enough to drive you friggin' nuts. Current ATV's have the consumer website (Honda.ca is often different from Honda.com too) version of descriptions, what's on the dealer website in wholegoods/dealer price lists, what's on the dealer unit locator, and different again on the parts lookup.
 
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