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So I went out for a ride today and everything was fine. A little hot, my engine temp hit 233. I pulled over to grab some water at a gas station and fill up my tank. Got a full tank and went to start it up, and nothing.

First time it sounded like it was going to turn over but it never did. Next few times, it didn't turn over at all, and just clicked. And now, it won't even click.

Not really understanding what could be wrong. I just had the 15,000 mile service performed. All new fluids. New spark plugs. Turn signals work albeit dimmer now, and the low beam is super dim. High beam doesn't come on at all.

I've had this for three years now, it's got just over 16,000 miles (got it with 10,000 miles), driven partial-year only, and have had it hooked up to a battery tender while in storage.

Is this as simple (hopefully) as I need to get a new battery?
 

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I assume it's the original battery that came with it. I've never changed it. So at a bare minimum, 3 years old, if not original.
 

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I fathom a guess that this would be your issue....do a search for testing a battery. We have a mad genius by the name of Makis that posted a good method of doing this.:cool:
 

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Thanks madbuyer. I'm assuming at this moment that it's the battery. Problem is that it's stuck at a gas station now and they don't want me leaving it overnight, and a tow is $200. So I'm trying to change the battery now.
 

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Ahh I wish I lived near Indy :D

OK so...

I went out and bought a new battery. Not the brand I wanted, but it was in a pinch, and I 1) didn't feel like leaving my motorcycle parked in a gas station parking lot overnight at the exit of the Holland Tunnel, and 2) I didn't feel like shelling out $200 for a freakin' tow.

So, one of my friends picked me up and we went to Advanced Auto Parts (my first mistake) and according to their computer (my second mistake), found the right battery for the RC-51. Took it back to the gas station, unhooked the old battery, put in the new one, and 1) it was probably a good 6 inches taller than the battery that was in there, and 2) when I did finally get it hooked up, nothing happened. Not even the lights on the instrument panel lit up. WTF.

So then decided to read the battery manual. It came with a separate container of acid. That I had to fill the battery with. And let sit for an hour to let the gas escape. And then plug into a battery tender for 12 hours. Ain't nobody got time for that!

So I called a few friends to see if any of them had battery tenders (I lost mine when I moved). No one does. Weird for other riders, I suppose. And then one asked me if I jumped it. I said I didn't, and the manual says not to jump it with a car. He said F the manual, just do it.

And I was desperate. So I did it. And it worked! Yay! So I was able to drive home and secure it (yay!) and will be returning the Advanced Auto Parts battery tomorrow, and ordering a new one online.

Which leads me to this: any recommendations on a new battery?

And thanks for your help earlier, madbuyer (and generous trailer offer, had I lived closer to Indy).
 

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Thanks extrapolator. I did some searching. I'm PM'ing RiderWarehouse to see if they sell the Alien Motion LiFePO4, and if they do, then I have it narrowed down to either the Alien Motion LiFePO4 or a Shorai LFX Lithium LFX18A1-BS12. Maybe I should start a poll...
 

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I picked up a Balistic evo 2 last year and that thing rocks. Only 1.5lbs I think. I think I payed around $150 for it. Every 8lbs shed is good for 1hp! Did you try to push start your bike? I hear it's a bitch on an RC. I've done my VFR a few times and that was no big deal.
 

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I've push started my CBR600 and it was pretty easy, though the RC would be more difficult, I am sure.

As to jumping it with a car battery, that's pure BS. The starter will only draw the current it needs and that is it. Everything else is the same voltage. The only thing you would have to worry about is the energy transfer into the old battery. You aren't supposed to charge at fast rates, but honestly the battery was toast anyway.

When you get the new one in there make sure that the charging system is working correctly.
 

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I've tried to push start my RC before and it’s a real BITCH! :mad: Key word being tried.

Push starting a RC or any FI motor with a really low or completely dead battery would be even harder, if it’s possible at all. You would not only have to push the bike fast enough to start it but also fast enough for the stator to generate enough voltage to run all the electronics needed, including the FI system.

Jumping a bike off a car is okay as long as the car is not running. I've done it a few times with no long time ill effects.

For the past 2 months I've been running the Shorai. I’m very happy with it, every time I hit the button she fires right up :D

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Why would it matter if the car was running? the voltage a bike puts out is the same as what a car puts out, and it's still the same DC voltage.
 

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I picked up a Balistic evo 2 last year and that thing rocks. Only 1.5lbs I think. I think I payed around $150 for it. Every 8lbs shed is good for 1hp! Did you try to push start your bike? I hear it's a bitch on an RC. I've done my VFR a few times and that was no big deal.
As to jumping it with a car battery, that's pure BS. The starter will only draw the current it needs and that is it. Everything else is the same voltage. The only thing you would have to worry about is the energy transfer into the old battery. You aren't supposed to charge at fast rates, but honestly the battery was toast anyway.

When you get the new one in there make sure that the charging system is working correctly.
I've tried to push start my RC before and it’s a real BITCH! :mad: Key word being tried.

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Jumping a bike off a car is okay as long as the car is not running. I've done it a few times with no long time ill effects.

For the past 2 months I've been running the Shorai. I’m very happy with it, every time I hit the button she fires right up :D

James
Yesterday I ordered an Alien Motion battery+charger from RidersDiscount for like $132. I tried to push start the bike, no dice. And FWIW, I had pos to pos, neg to neg (I tried neg to frame, no dice), and the car engine on, and it worked fine. My old, dead battery didn't explode or melt and I was able to drive it home.
 

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Why would it matter if the car was running? the voltage a bike puts out is the same as what a car puts out, and it's still the same DC voltage.
The amps that an automotive alternator puts out is more than motorcycle batteries can handle and will cook the cells. At least that's what I've always been told.

Either way, a good car battery has more than enough juice to start just about any motorcycle. So, in my book, why risk cooking a battery or other electronics.

Sent from Motorcycle.com App
 

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As an electrician I'll say my $0.02

When we jump start a bike using a car, the car's engine MUST BE OFF!
We only use the car's battery. When the bike fires up, we immediately remove the cables (at least the positive one).

James has a point about the amps.
Also the real damage is when the bike start's and it's charging system tries to charge the car's battery that is still connected on....you can fry the stator coil in minutes like that.
Fortunately the R/R blows up first :D
 

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Installed the new battery yesterday, the bike started immediately! Woohoo! I went out for a four-hour ride to celebrate!
 
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