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Having only recently been an owner of an RC, i was wondering what makes this bike so super. Its actually classified as a "super bike" as apposed to a "sport bike"
Dont get me wrong, im not being pessimistic. I know this bike is special! Just wanted to know what to tell people who say, "what is an RC51" :rolleyes:
 

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Superbike was just a term made up by AMA for a new class back in the 80's. It is really just another name for a sportbike, but Superbike stuck and is commonly used for all the Championships worldwide. Supersports are 600's.

Pretty much anything with full fairings meant to go fast is considered a sportbike.
They are pretty much one in the same.
 

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You can tell people this.....back in 2000 Honda introduced the RC51 SP1 as a "homologation" so that it could race the SP1 in WSBK and put up a fight against the reigning Ducati. The RC stuck around through 2002. It took 2 championships with Colin Edwards in those 3 years, only to be beat once by Troy Bayliss on a Ducati 996 in 2001. It was Honda's last Homologation. Back then the manufacturers could race either a 1000cc V Twin or 750CC I4. Soon after WSBK rules changed, and the Homologation bikes went away.
 

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Some of the racing greats who raced it

Colin Edwards- WSBK/Suzuka 8h
Nicky Hayden- AMA
Valentino Rossi- Suzuka 8h
Daijiro Kato- Suzuka 8h
Miguel Duhamel-AMA
Aaron Slight-WSBK
Joey Dunlop- TT
John Mcguinnes-TT
Tohru Ukawa-Suzuka 8h

and many others
 

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Most non-riding folk will look at you like an idiot if you say "superbike". Even to most riders it really doesn't mean anything.

Just tell them you bought it to impress women and have no fucking clue what it is or what you are doing. That usually gets a better look.
 

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You can tell people this.....back in 2000 Honda introduced the RC51 SP1 as a "homologation" so that it could race the SP1 in WSBK and put up a fight against the reigning Ducati. The RC stuck around through 2002. It took 2 championships with Colin Edwards in those 3 years, only to be beat once by Troy Bayliss on a Ducati 996 in 2001. It was Honda's last Homologation. Back then the manufacturers could race either a 1000cc V Twin or 70CC I4. Soon after WSBK rules changed, and the Homologation bikes went away.
Homologation?? Not sure what that means?
Lemme see if i have this right... Before you could race a 1000cc inline the RC and Duc were the only liter bikes in the WSBK. So up until then 750cc was the largest inline allowed to race?
It seems an unfair advantage to race a 750 against a 1000, even if it is a Vtwin.
So what if anything makes the RC or for that matter a 996 unique? It seems they both are "old dogs" in the race world today...
 

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Most non-riding folk will look at you like an idiot if you say "superbike". Even to most riders it really doesn't mean anything.

Just tell them you bought it to impress women and have no fucking clue what it is or what you are doing. That usually gets a better look.
Bwahahaha:D This is my blanket statement from now on!
 

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Back then the manufacturers could race either a 1000cc V Twin or 70CC I4.
No wonder the old Kwackers and Hondas had such a hard time against the Duc twins ;) and why Slight once said "there's always one more fucking Ducati".

It wasn't just inline fours though as Honda had both the venerable RC30 and the RC45, so the rules were essentially 1000 twins vs 750 fours, irrespective of whether inline or Vee.

Joking aside, for me the 2003 and 2004 seasons were, (SP1 Edwards vs Bayliss aside), THE best years of WSBK.
 

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Homologation?? Not sure what that means?
Lemme see if i have this right... Before you could race a 1000cc inline the RC and Duc were the only liter bikes in the WSBK. So up until then 750cc was the largest inline allowed to race?
It seems an unfair advantage to race a 750 against a 1000, even if it is a Vtwin.
So what if anything makes the RC or for that matter a 996 unique? It seems they both are "old dogs" in the race world today...
Homologation. ok, back then manufacturers could race anything as long as they sold a certain number to the public.....something like 150. So essentially bikes back then were built and designed to race in WSBK.....then converted to street use. Nowadays its really the other way around. Manufacturers design the bike around the street and convert to race use (there have been a few exceptions lately, mainly Aprilia and BMW).
There were other 1000's. Aprilia raced the RSV Mille (their homologation was the Mille SP, only 150 were built to meet the requirement to race). There was also Bimota for awhile as well. Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha all had 750's. It really was not an unfair advantage for the twins at all. Yamaha's R7 should have won the championship in 1999, if it weren't for a certain incident with Nori Haga. Look at WSBK today. The sole twin Ducati gets a few extra CC's so it can run competitively. KTM built the 1190 with the intention of going racing too.
They are "old dogs" they are 10 years old. What makes them special is the racing heritage behind the bikes. RC for Honda to me was the last bike Honda built specifically to go racing in WSBK. 1999-2002 was the Golden Era for me of WSBK.....but before you get too excited about your "legendary Race bike", Our RC's in stock form may look similair to the WSBK version, but they are completely different bikes and share nothing together other then a basic design. Honda was brilliant at getting away with what they raced as the SPW.
 

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No wonder the old Kwackers and Hondas had such a hard time against the Duc twins ;) and why Slight once said "there's always one more fucking Ducati".

It wasn't just inline fours though as Honda had both the venerable RC30 and the RC45, so the rules were essentially 1000 twins vs 750 fours, irrespective of whether inline or Vee.

Joking aside, for me the 2003 and 2004 seasons were, (SP1 Edwards vs Bayliss aside), THE best years of WSBK.
right i should have specified. If you planned on racing with 1000cc's you were allowed a 2 cyclinder motor. At 750CC's you could have a 4 cylinder.......in any configuration. Which is why Honda Developed the Honda RC30 and RC45, both 750cc V4's. All the rules changed in 2003.
 

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In the June issue of Performance Bikes, there's an article on nicely kitted RC45 used in club racing.
The bike was tuned using some rare HRC factory parts that were never recovered by Honda (who never wants HRC factory items to stray from Japan).
While it's not a full on HRC factory bike, the engine still puts out over 158 HP, which is still one stout 13 year old 750.
And it's still a beautiful bike goes like the wind.
 

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Maybe a "Ole Dog" . Yet -it in stock form.Will be more bike than 90% of the riders riding the RC-will ever need..
"It isn't the sharpest tool in the shed now, It is HOW you use the tool..
 

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Well I tell em its super because I ride it. Supermen ride Superbikes. Whats an RC-51? If you have to ask, you probably wouldn't want one. Mine is an addiction. I want to start an RC-51 Rescue and buy every decent one I come across. I want a garage full of them! I'd be the coolest Hoarder ever! :)
 

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Bwahahaha:D This is my blanket statement from now on!
It helps if you turn the key back and forth a couple times, hit the high beam and honk the horn a few times, then yell "Some asshole moved it!" before thumbing the starter, then stall it once or twice for good measure before you duck walk it out of the parking lot.
 

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The sad thing is they only thing they were really homologating is the size of the throttle bodies and the bore and stroke numbers inside the motor as those are the only things that match the specs of the production version we can buy. None of the parts used on the HRC racebikes are interchangeable with the production bikes. As I have said many times before they don't share one single bolt.
 

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It helps if you turn the key back and forth a couple times, hit the high beam and honk the horn a few times, then yell "Some @#!*% moved it!" before thumbing the starter, then stall it once or twice for good measure before you duck walk it out of the parking lot.
That is sooooooo fricking hiliarious! :p
 
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